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To: sarcasm; All
There are several issues really in this post that I would like to reply to.

..."They're unable to distinguish between Islam as religion and way of life...[sic]

This is a very difficult thing for Americans and Westerners in general to completely understand and that is for a Muslim, Islam encompasses all aspects of life and society including even our government and law. The court system for Muslims must follow "Shariah Law" and not "civil law" and other religion are simply not permitted or allowed. Islam is much much more than a religion, it is a "way of life", an idealogy that cannot coexist with democracy or secularism.

Perhaps your remember Siraj Wahaj, he was the first imam to deliver a Muslim prayer for the U.S. House of Representatives, he also just recently addressed an audience of New Jersey Muslims, that they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. He said "If we were united and strong, we'd elect our own emir [leader] and give allegiance to him...Take my word, if 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us."

The intention of Islam is not to coexist and not to assimilate into America. The intention is very clear and that is to conquer.

Siraj Wahaj is what many Americans consider to be "moderate Islam", the "safe Islam", "peaceful Islam" in other words, the ones who are not willing to kill us by blowing up bombs or crashing planes into our buildings.

Siraj Wahaj represents even a greater threat and that is to our nation as a whole. He has no loyalty in our nation, he is a fifth column who will use America's freedoms and laws from within to divide and destroy us and he is succeeding. Moderate Islam is the "trojan horse" that will allow him to spread his dangerous idealogy. His goal is the same as Osama Bin Laden, only his methods are different.

"They need to understand that like (President) Bush said . . . Islam is a peaceful religion."

President Bush is not an expert in neither theology nor Islam and is not qualified to make such a statement. It will haunt him for years to come. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that there is nothing at all peaceful about Islam.

I often hear from liberals who like to explain to me that - "Well ya know Christians killed a lot of people in past as well." - "We are just as bad" - like it is some sort of excuse or justification for the atrocities that Muslims are commiting throughout the world now as we speak.

...Kathy Erlandson, director of Associated Ministries of Thurston County, found the small walkout disappointing, but not surprising..."It makes me embarrassed to know that some of our legislators can't even treat someone with that common respect," she said. "He's an American citizen and he's praying for their work, then how can it be an act of patriotism to walk away?"...[sic]

This is just completely stupid. Using her logic, The Church of Satan should be allowed as well to come into The House and offer prayers to the Devil as well and perhaps after that, the Church of Homer Simpson.

22 posted on 03/04/2003 4:27:33 AM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Using her logic, The Church of Satan should be allowed as well to come into The House and offer prayers to the Devil

Then again, an expression of allegiance to Satan would be more consistent with the typical behavior of legislators.

46 posted on 03/04/2003 4:51:14 AM PST by steve-b
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To: expatguy; Illbay
Using her logic, The Church of Satan should be allowed as well to come into The House and offer prayers to the Devil as well and perhaps after that, the Church of Homer Simpson.

And there will be some, even on this thread, like Illbay, who think that would be perfectly okay.

48 posted on 03/04/2003 4:51:56 AM PST by ppaul
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To: expatguy
I agree with you.

We are not fighting terrorism but a religion that will not stop until they will rule the world.

They are over six million in the USA. The World is blind to the Islam's clear teaching that all Muslims are commanded to kill the Infidels (Unbelievers) that do not submit to Islam.

All Countries that are ruled by Islam now were taken over by murdering their citizens.
Islam has spawned mass murder over the world in order to their Country. Allah commanded them to do it in the Koran.

Saudi Arabia has spent Many Billions of dollars in building Mosques
many in America and Europe. With the Imams trained at Al Akzar in Cairo, Egypt. Where all are trained to do anything and everything in anyway to take over the whole World.

All of the so called (Terrorists) have been spawned by Islam. Much of the News media in the USA and our President say Islam is a good and peaceful religion. You be the judge. Here are a few passages from the Koran

Sura… 5:51 O you who believe do not take the Jews and Christians for friends… Allah does not guide the unjust people…

Sura 9:5…Then slay the idolaters (That's all who do not believe in the Koran) wherever you find them and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush……

Sura …2:191 Kill them wherever you find them.

Sura 8:37 Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme…

Sura 4:74 When you meet the unbelievers on the battlefield strike of their heads……

All Countries that are now ruled by Islam were taken over by murdering their citizens.
Islam has spawned mass murder over the world



54 posted on 03/04/2003 4:56:23 AM PST by Giddyupgo
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