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Notre Dame priest: Creationism debate unique to U.S.
The Bozeman Daily Chronicle ^
| 2003-05-11
| Walt Williams
Posted on 05/11/2003 4:38:14 PM PDT by Junior
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To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it. Exactly. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:37:10 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: Genesis defender
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. The first thing that popped into my head was Han Solo's line:
"Who's scruffy-lookin'?"
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:37:32 PM PDT
by
Genesis defender
(If religion is a crutch for the weak, atheism is a crutch for the ungodly - D. James Kennedy)
To: Junior
Molecular machines
Bacterial Flagellum = Intelligent Design
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:41:42 PM PDT
by
slimer
To: nickcarraway
Why can't schools just explain what creationism is, and it's history. Then explain evolution to the children and it's history. Then explain the newer biochemical theories to the students. Schools can't cover science or history as it is. They'll never get thru this.
To: slimer
Please explain the ID test.
To: RaceBannon
If the reference to a 6 day creation is not a literal 6 days, then here where God speaks to Moses is a lie, also.Yet many of the Church fathers disagree with you. Who is your source?
To: jlogajan
The Bible is wrong forever.The Bible isn't wrong. It's just not science.
To: Saturnalia
The fools will fall before the legions of Geno! D'oh!
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:53:40 PM PDT
by
jlogajan
To: sinkspur
That is blasphemy. Evolution says that God did not make men on day 6. That means men were not created, but evolved. That means men were not created sinless and then sin after. That means the promise of a redeemer is false, and that means Jesus Christ died for nothing.
God revealed Himself as the Bible says, not as men think.
To: Thorondir
(according to a Jewish source and double-verified in unbiased historical reference books) ...If you are Jewish, your religion was founded by God through Abraham about 4,000 years ago.
...If you are Islamic, your religion was started by Mohammed in the area of what is now Saudi Arabia, about 600 A.D.
Unbiased??? If it's truly unbiased it should be more consistent. So the Islamic entry should read:
"If you are Islamic, your religion was started when the archangel Gabriel dictated the Koran from the original copy which is sitting in Heaven to Mohammed in the area of what is now Saudi Arabia, about 600 A.D."
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:55:55 PM PDT
by
jennyp
(http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
To: <1/1,000,000th%
The plain language of Genesis tells me this, that is my source.
If you take the time to read it, you will see: each time the word DAY is used, YOM in Hebrew, there is a modifying adjective such as morning and evening used in conjunction with the word YOM in all the days of Creation in Genesis chapter one.
All you have to do is read it, you will see.
To: Stultis
Stultis, wasn't modern creationism a product of Seventh-Day Adventism?
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:57:03 PM PDT
by
jennyp
(http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
To: RaceBannon
That means the promise of a redeemer is false, and that means Jesus Christ died for nothing. Nonsense, Race. Your reply is full of non-sequiturs.
But, I'm not going to argue with you. We'll never agree.
God Bless.
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:57:53 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: RaceBannon
But if God rested on the seventh day, does that mean he got tired?
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:58:24 PM PDT
by
plusone
To: slimer
Bacterial Flagellum = Intelligent Design= Very Inefficient Design, if you ask me. Where's the propeller? I mean really - it goes to all that trouble just to flail a whip around?
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posted on
05/11/2003 7:59:47 PM PDT
by
jennyp
(http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
To: RaceBannon
Biblical literalism, eh? That "one day is like a thousand years to God" stuff didn't impress you?
To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it. Absent the Sun (and the Moon), what do the terms "morning" and "evening" mean? Remember those were not created until IIRC the third day.
Even after the Sun and Moon were created, to what geographical region did the terms "morning", "evening", and "day" apply? Remember that, except during a solar eclipse, it's always "day" somewhere on the planet and "night" somewhere else.
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posted on
05/11/2003 8:31:13 PM PDT
by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it. How long is God's morning and evening? For that matter, how does time move in God's frame of reference, compared to ours?
To: Jorge
Exactly. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this. The terms "day", "morning", and "evening" presuppose the existence of the Sun, and refer only to local, rather than global phenomena. As you read this, it is day somewhere and night somewhere else. In twelve hours time, most of the places that are now in "day" will be in "night", and vice versa, though some places' days and nights will last for months.
How can the term "day" have any modern meaning at all before the creation of the Sun? And even after the creation of the Sun, how can it have any global meaning?
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posted on
05/11/2003 8:36:19 PM PDT
by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: Junior
Evolution -- as taught to me as fact in junior high -- has been descredited. Something to think about.
What's wrong with questioning evolution? Saying life may not have been the result of a single abiogenesis instance, or that chance does not adequately explain the development of life?
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posted on
05/11/2003 8:41:13 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
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