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Marijuana makes you go crazy
Ananova ^
| July 2 2003
Posted on 07/02/2003 2:31:32 PM PDT by rastus macgill
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To: Reagan Man
As I said, there is NO in between.
Let them have an inch, they have taken a mile.
You are part of the problem, not the solution.
I find it rather sad.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:22:38 AM PDT
by
Aric2000
(If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:36:08 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: jmc813
Actually, Libertarians make people go crazy.
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:36:48 AM PDT
by
Cathryn Crawford
(Check out my blog at: http://cathryncrawford.blogspot.com)
To: rastus macgill
According to a Government fact sheet, cannabis "can cause psychotic reactions amongst individuals with mental health problems", but it does not suggest use of the drug can prompt those problems
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:38:11 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: Reagan Man
According to the all the dopers and druggies, Reefer Madness was nothing but propagandaDo you agree with Reefer Madness that pot makes white women have sex with black jazz musicians?
45
posted on
07/03/2003 9:39:01 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: Reagan Man
In America today, it is illegal to cultivate, grow, sell, purchase and ingest marijuana.Are you sure about that last one?
46
posted on
07/03/2003 9:40:27 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: poodle
47
posted on
07/03/2003 9:40:41 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: Reagan Man
48
posted on
07/03/2003 9:41:36 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: Reagan Man
Do you assert that it was not put here by God?
49
posted on
07/03/2003 9:41:56 AM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Reagan Man
Congress can legislate under the Commerce Clause.Are you sure you shouldn't be calling yourself "Roosevelt Man"?
50
posted on
07/03/2003 9:42:55 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: Reagan Man
You've got to come to the realization that the only way to change the current system of excessive taxation, excessive federal spending and judicial activism, is to take your agenda to the people, as the Founding Fathers did.So why do you ridicule FReeprs who present their anti-WOD agenda to FR as potheads?
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:48:02 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: truenospinzone; Reagan Man
According to the all the dopers and druggies, Reefer Madness was nothing but propagandaFor consideration for the list on your home page.
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:50:20 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The FR Big Brother 4 thread - Coming later today)
To: rastus macgill
And it makes white women seek sex with black jazz musicians
53
posted on
07/03/2003 10:08:25 AM PDT
by
clamper1797
(Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
To: Reagan Man
You can't just say, this isn't specifically stated in the Constitution, so therefore it must be done away with. People, mostly liberal Democarts and some Republican's will laugh at you. So they'll have to be presented with other arguments (which exist in plentitude). But at least true conservatives will find the Constitutional argument sufficient.
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posted on
07/03/2003 10:13:53 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
(The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
To: jmc813
[Reagan Man:] Congress can legislate under the Commerce Clause.Are you sure you shouldn't be calling yourself "Roosevelt Man"?
ZING!
55
posted on
07/03/2003 10:15:05 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
(The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
To: *Wod_list
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posted on
07/03/2003 10:18:03 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
(The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
To: Reagan Man
A Constitutional amendment isn't required in this specific case. Congress can legislate under the Commerce Clause. The ONLY issue was one of delegation, can Congress delegate it's legislative authority to an executive branch agency. Again, under fairly settled law, Congress can do so, as long as it limits the discretion of the agency and provides the overall structure and guidance to the agency in the grant of delegation, and so long as the agency follows established principles of administrative law, as in due process, review and comment, etc. Do you support asset seizure without due process?
How about kicking down doors in no knock raids by SWAT on pot dealers?
57
posted on
07/03/2003 11:16:35 AM PDT
by
Ken H
To: jmc813
I'm on my third bong-hit today. Still not crazy. I'll report back later. Happy 4th!
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:12:01 PM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: Ken H; jmc813; MrLeRoy
Ok, so I'm sitting here waiting to go nuts (still nothing yet, maybe I should have a talk with my supplier), and I came across the following criticism of the original Swedish studies that led to this nonsense:
From: Alan J Gijsbers,
Specialist Physician in Addiction Studies Turning Point Drug and Alcohol Centre Fitzroy Victoria 3065 Australia
Re: Cannabis and Psychosis - data overlooked
"While the BMJ editorial on the whole analyses the data well, Two most glaringly obvious observations from the original Swedish conscript study have been overlooked. That is that most of the people taking cannabis did not develop psychosis, and conversely most people who developed schizophrenia did not use cannabis."
Did you catch that? "That is that most of the people taking cannabis did not develop psychosis, and conversely most people who developed schizophrenia did not use cannabis."
Which means, of course, that cannabis use actually prevents schizophrenia!
But seriously, folks, the worldwide incidence of schizophrenia has remained stable for the last 30 years, precisely at the time when overall cannabis use has increased. You don't have to be an egghead scientist to figure out that there is no causal link between the two.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:30:49 PM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: jammer
Just because a USSC decision was made doesn't make it "Constitutional."
It has been my understanding that, a major role for the USSC is to rule, when conflicts arise, as to just what IS Constitutional.
Over time, courts with "different" makeups might arrive at different decisions, covering the SAME words in the original document.
But there IS no higher decision making body than them. So for the time of each of their rulings, it IS Constitutional.
You (and another later court) may differ, but your different opinion does NOT carry the weight of their role for determining what is for the time, Constitutional.
That is our system. Not perfect. But better than any other.
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