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To: All; gore3000
***RETRACTION***

Regarding my dispute with gore3000 about whether experiments that I cited from the 6th edition of The Origin of Species also appeared in the 1st edition:

gore3000 has graciously conceded, in his reply to a private email, that his search of the 1st edition text was hasty and missed relevant parallel passages. He has given me permission in a subsequent email to convey that concession here.

I accept gore3000's explanation, and I withdraw my claim that he was lying about having checked the text, or the result thereof.

Principal preceeding messages:

Gore (repeats) request for "an example of ONE (1) experiment in the Origins".
#3316

I reply with examples.
#3493

gore3000 suggests I used the 6th edition because my examples didn't appear in the 1st edition, and says he checked this.
#3698

I respond with a table laying out relevant passages from 6th and 1st editions side-by-side. I call gore3000 a liar.
#3813

gore3000 had not publicly responded to the preceeding message, but I reply to another freeper mistakenly thinking it was gore3000. I repeat and expand my charge that he was lying.
#3836

It appears to me from gore3000's email that a disagreement remains between us, but I consider it trivial. Nevertheless I should add that gore3000's concession was specifically with respect to the pidgeon experiments. He seems to take the same position as the freeper I mistakenly responded to in the last message linked, that the red clover fertilization experiments should not be said to be present in the 1st edition (presumably because of the differences I flagged in my table). I've already given my position on this in that last (mistakenly addressed) message.

I hope I've been fair to gore3000 with this summary, and request that he respond if I have not.

4,104 posted on 07/17/2003 9:45:39 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
I hope I've been fair to gore3000 with this summary, and request that he respond if I have not.

It has been fair.

4,115 posted on 07/18/2003 4:21:56 AM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: Stultis
Astonishing clinical progress in one who has seemed hopeless. Apparently, public concessions are impossible but private concessions are concievable.

Now he needs to realize that whether the discussion is public or private, if you're going to continue to argue a position, you've got to stay as square with all the pertinent facts as you possibly can. That means eating the crow while it's warm.

4,123 posted on 07/18/2003 6:55:37 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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