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VANITY: The "Truth" about JimRob and Free Republic according to BADJOE
LibertyPost.org | 10/10/03 | BADJOE (Slightly revised by JimRob)

Posted on 10/10/2003 2:23:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 10/10/2003 2:27:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Dear Free Republic Friends,

My old friend and brother-in-arms BADJOE has promised to warm the cockles of our hearts by publishing an expose (the truth about JimRob and Free Republic according to Joe) on the 18th of this month, which represents the one year anniversary of the date he last posted to FreeRepublic.com and started up with LibertyPost.org.

So, as I believe that only the truth can set you free, and based upon the stratergery of pre-emptive strike, I have a confession to make (before BADJOE makes it public):

I have poisoned the well.

By my sly innuendos behind the scenes.

By my intellectual ineptitude.

By not trusting those that brung me to the dance to bring me home.

By my biting every hand that fed me.

By my arrogance that causes me to think I did it all by myself.

By my stubborness not because of principle, but because of my lack of ability to see what is transpiring.

Evidenced by:

One would think that with half again as many Freepers. with a recovering economy, It would take a great deal less time to raise the necessary funds.

By this time in the June 2002 effort with a goal of $70,000 we had raised $73,000. Not because of who did the fundraising, but because the sense of purpose, of family, of comaraderie, was still present.

BADJOE rang the warning bell, but none heard.

Conclusion:

It is a sad day.

For what was once a great hope, a means of bringing together those who are willing to pay dearly in blood, sweat, and money to save this country, we all love, has been reduced to an asterisk.

So sayeth BADJOE as he promises to publish all this and much more on the 18th. He's been feverishly working on this "project" for one full year. In addition to the "truth about JimRob" BADJOE intends to further betray our trust placed in him by revealing the names of our moderators. And who knows what else?

I can hardly wait.

Is it the 18th yet? Tick, tock.


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To: Willie Green
I was wrong about you.

Peace.
1,061 posted on 10/11/2003 3:39:53 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Please become a monthly donor!!! Just $3 a month--you won't miss it, and will feel proud!)
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To: strela
Why yes, one of your technically sophisticated multiple windows ferreted out my infraction. Then you reposted it in its entirety to this thread after it had been deleted by the moderators, violating the posting rules here in the process.

That's called "being a troll", buddy.

FreeRepublic was considered one of the stickiest sites on the net because it's so easily viewed in multiple windows. John Robinson took time to build a new forum software upgrade, and in that process removed the option to open new threads in new windows. The Response thread with a plea to return to "open in New Window" threading received hundreds of replies begging for the option back. You are aware there are 3 options for opening threads on FR, and 2 involve opening threads in new windows?

1,062 posted on 10/11/2003 3:42:16 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander (Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'll send in my humble contribution as soon as I get paid in another couple of weeks or so.

Or would you be willing to accept a couple of goats in lieu of cash?

1,063 posted on 10/11/2003 3:53:13 AM PDT by snopercod (Give us Bread and Roses...)
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To: tpaine; Dales
'Hugh Akston' was/is a mod? -- That would explain a lot pulled posts, imo.

Tpaine, are you sure you're not confusing dales/Hugh Akston with H.Akston? Two different freepers.

1,064 posted on 10/11/2003 3:53:35 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Jim Robinson
I must of missed something? This is the first I heard of Liberty post.

Why did all those people get banded? I went to the web site found some names and did a Google search of their names. I just went through some of their old posts. Their threads are littered with more banded people. I don’t like to see familiar names get banded, unless they did something really wrong?

I do not know the circumstances of the banning, but that is a lot of old timers that where banded all of a sudden? That leads me to believe a new policy of banding context has been implemented?

This is not good for a site like this.

1,065 posted on 10/11/2003 3:54:49 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn
There people over there that haven't been banned.Do a poster search here.There are many spin offs from FR..LP is only one.FR is doing fine and there's plenty of room for other sites.

I saw a couple of posters that are great flamers there.I am sure you realize that people aren't banned for no reason.Old members get a lot of leeway,but they also may have created a lot of trouble too.

If one doesn't like it they can always hunt for another site more their liking.
1,066 posted on 10/11/2003 4:07:01 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Jim Robinson
Oops, MEG33 let me know I was in some deep dookie with you for a little while. :)

I thought several people were joking and found out further down the posts some weren't, so what seemed absurd to me must have been just more complaining to you.

I'm sorry for any extra heartburn I caused. We love you and FR Jim!
1,067 posted on 10/11/2003 4:11:11 AM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: Steve Van Doorn
They caused themselves to be banned or left FR on their own accord for a vaiety of reasons. If I had to generalize, I'd say that a common trait that many of them share is an inability to communicate effectively with others without causing severe discomfort or distress to themselves or the other parties involved. In other words, many of them are the type of people who are not happy unless they have someone to bully. They seem to enjoy flamewars and feuds and or trashing and bashing other posters or the causes/beliefs other posters are supporting. Read their website. The truth is self-evident.
1,068 posted on 10/11/2003 4:14:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Reb Raider
Thanks very much.

Well, it's nigh onto o'dark thirty here. Time to hit the rack.

Goodnight all.
1,069 posted on 10/11/2003 4:18:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Nita Nupress
Oh come on - you're a smart girl. Use your brain.
1,070 posted on 10/11/2003 4:25:32 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: DittoJed2
I'm talking with these folks- people who deliberately jump on a thread with the intent to belittle other posters. I've never seen our side do that.

*boggle*

I'd be glad to refresh your memory if you plan on sticking with that amazing claim.

1,071 posted on 10/11/2003 4:29:03 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Sabertooth
Yes, there is a perception problem. No question about it.

Some of it came on its own, and was inevitable. Nature of the beast.

Some of it has come, undoubtably, because of mistakes which have been made; there have been mistakes, and there will always be mistakes, because we are human and God made us imperfect. We try to minimize the mistakes, by watching out for each other, and by questioning each other when we see something we are not in agreement with.

And some of it was intentionally created, by those who wanted such a perception to grow to unmanageable levels.

In the end, everything comes down to one thing- Jim's decision. He sees every abuse report that comes in. He sees every action we make.

No one stays without Jim allowing that person to stay. No one goes without Jim allowing that person to go.

I don't think you understand how spontaneous this was tonight. I guess it looks planned. It wasn't. We've been seeing Joe's vague threats for about a year now, and had seen his more specific demands about a year ago. Jim then made this post.

I read it, and as it was going on, I decided that I really wasn't enjoying just being a dartboard. For over a year, I had let myself be one.

So I made my post.

Then WIMom, who accidentally had let her identity come out on a thread once and had it seen by a poster by the name of Central Scrutiniser who then took it to LP, decided to join me.

Then so did the others. No planning, so to say it was done for any particular reason is probably not accurate. I am sure each one of us had our own reasons. Some may have overlapped, some may be completely different.

But damage control? Yes, when someone is trying to malign the job I do, I want to try to set the record straight.

Do we all have our biases? I am sure we do. We do our best, and we try to learn from our mistakes.

All of which doesn't address your comment here. Except my first point.

If there are posting guidelines that don't apply equally to all posters, then you are definitely banning people unfairly. If nefarious, malicious posters are allowed to remain on Free Republic, then the bannings of their targets are nefarious and malicious by default.
The answer to this is that in the end, every decision goes through Jim. Whatever bias there is in who stays or goes is his. The vote of one Jim Robinson outweighs the vote of every single moderator.
1,072 posted on 10/11/2003 4:32:06 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; LurkerNoMore!; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
And y'all wonder why no one takes y'all seriously (besides the fact that at least two of yas use the term "y'all". (Re)read this.

What the hell am I doing up so early?

1,073 posted on 10/11/2003 4:36:58 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
What the hell am I doing up so early?

There are something we REALLY don't want to know!
Once agian I'm getting some very...."disturbing" images.
1,074 posted on 10/11/2003 4:42:57 AM PDT by Valin (I have my own little world, but it's okay - they know me here.)
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To: MonroeDNA
It's kind of a big let-down. But life moves on.
1,075 posted on 10/11/2003 4:45:04 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Senator Pardek
Here is the laugh of the year; over on LP they have said I am a Mod. Now THAT is funny!
1,076 posted on 10/11/2003 4:46:24 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I wouldn't let you pick up my mail.
1,077 posted on 10/11/2003 4:47:21 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Valin
It's because I'm getting old.
1,078 posted on 10/11/2003 4:49:13 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you sir for the great things you have done here.

I have found a home here among many clear thinking, hard working, patriotic Americans.

Don't let these goofballs get you down.

A hearty salute!

1,079 posted on 10/11/2003 4:52:14 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Sabertooth
Nobody is perfect.

I just woke up, and sat down, and saw this. I have no idea of the context yet, but I will, right now. And if I think something wasn't fair and balanced, then I'll take care of it.

That is how things work.

But it is helpful to consider the way things work. An abuse report comes in that says:

Regarding #847

Material in post in another thread previously deleted by Admin Moderator re-introduced into this thread

The moderator looks, and sees such a post. Yep, someone reposted a pulled quote. Down it came.

Meanwhile, Jim is reading this thread. Perhaps you think that user should be banned. But that decision would be made by Jim, not by us. He's asked us to him handle banning questions of established members, except in the most egregious of cases (which would be where someone suddenly loses it).

If you want total consistency from us, the best you will get from me is an admission that while it is a goal we strive for, we'll probably never get complete consistency. The fact that each of us has our own style means there will be some inconsistency. The fact that each of is not a perfect logic machine means there will be some inconsistency. The fact that we learn, from our mistakes and from those of others, means there will be some inconsistency. The fact that we see some things and not others means there will be some inconsistency.

And the fact that we will make mistakes or bad decisions means there will be some inconsistency.

We try to keep it at a minimum. How well we do, everyone will have to decide for themselves. Nature of the beast. And those who don't like us or who think we suck, are likely to try to convince people. Also nature of the beast.

You're a good man, Sabertooth. You always try to be fair, from what I have seen. Your concerns are not falling on deaf ears.

Regards

1,080 posted on 10/11/2003 4:53:17 AM PDT by Dales
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