Posted on 04/18/2004 5:34:59 PM PDT by nwrep
Some disturbing thoughts from our friends on the dark side. It is amazing to find such empathy for bin Laden in a country where he cheerfully slaughtered 3000 innocents:
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Did or did NOT OBL mastermind the 911 tragedy ? ... Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 04:17 AM by Trajan
Did he plan, aid or abet the Two African Embassy bombings ???
Did he plan, aid or abet the Bali Nightclub bombings ? ...
Did he plan, aid or abet the 1993 bombing of the WTC ? ....
Did he plan, aid or abet the crashing of two aircraft into the twin towers of the WTC on 9-11 ??? ...
I, for one, believe he planned, aided and abetted each of those actions, and I believe it is right and proper to ARREST OBL and any of those persons who also planned, aided and abetted ANY of those acts of heinous criminality ....
Mind you: nearly a thousand innocent human beings were killed WITHOUT COUNTING 911 ....
I sometimes get disgusted when I see that even here in DU, some would cast out the JUST apprehension of a criminal cabal, if only to discredit the opposition....
As a committed liberal and enlightened free person of the world: I cannot justify an obstruction of justice for the benefit of political expedience ....
SO: those of you who feel OBL is a 'good guy', please step forward and justify that position ....
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Bin Laden is my enemy. But that itself does not make him "evil".
In his view, the American people are oppressed by a false god named "Capitalism". He wants the emissaries of that false god to stop troubling his people, and he would like to liberate the common American from the grasp of that demonic power.
In other words, he attacked us for our own good ... much like we attacked Iraq. Beware of people who will kill you for your own good. I see many similarities between Bush and OBL, in terms of their philosophy and how they apply it. OBL uses hijacked airliners and such. We use cruise missiles and cluster bombs. A fine distinction for the dead.
Declaring war on terrorism is much like declaring war on flanking maneuvers. These people (al Qaeda) have engaged us in what I prefer to call "asymmetrical warfare". We disapprove of their tactics. They would like to own cruise missiles but don't, thankfully, and that is largely what shapes their tactics.
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actually, it turns out, those so called terrorists are NOT wrong about
their positions.
They're attacking 'us' because we are lead by bad men, inhabiting the white house.
They're not attacking US because WE are bad, but to punish the evil and nefarious doings of the thugs in the white house. it's all retaliatory, and not to say it's deserved, but why SHOULDN'T they oppose the doings of the thugs in the PNAC, by attacking western interests?
Why not? What ELSE should they do to protect themselves? Should they just roll over and die?
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Sorry--I live in the United STates and am a United STates citizen. I demand to see justice, not barbarism, even though we were attack in a barbaric manner. We are NOT the Likuds and we do NOT have to practice a Likud way of dealing with enemies by bombing twenty people in a house, because one person is "suspected" to be in there, and one person is "suspected" because someone said so.
I can never support knee jerk, insane war .
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Under orders from Junior, how many innocent civilians have died...
...in both Afghanistan and Iraq? My guess is in the range of 15,000 to 25,000 in Afghanistan, and 25,000 to 35,000 in Iraq.
By your guidelines, what does that make Junior and the rest of the NeoCons?
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Bush has killed more civilians than OBL and saddam combined.
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I still haven't seen proof apart from a dodgy video recording
that is so obviously a fake that it raises more questions than it answers
I don't know if bin Laden's guilty of what is said but I do know that he is presented as a reason to justify anything the present US administration wants to do.
To blindly accept that he is the enemy without proof of his actions apart from statements from agencies known for perpetuating lies is not too clever.
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Give him a break
You should let OBL off the hook. He did his patriotic duty, as he saw it. Would you blame a soldier for killing during a war? Can you blame a hungry person for stealing a loaf of bread so he can eat? Why should you blame a righteous, holy man for following the precepts of his religion. He is just doing right by his measure of rightness.
We should forgive and forget.
Reparations should be paid to all the families who we have harmed in the middle east and in south asia since this whole mess began.
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obl specifically denied perping 9.11, and I believe him. He has more
street cred than bush, that's for sure.
and I believe he's been dead since Dec 2001.
And the FBI doesn't think he perped 9.11 either. Take a look at the FBI's most wanted web page for OBL. No mention of 9.11.
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