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ZOT! All you war-supporters, READ THIS!!

Posted on 05/22/2004 4:03:26 PM PDT by qlo2

I read a thread made about a year ago, where hollywood celebrities were being called all kinds of names because they opposed the USELESS Irar war. Why useless, read THIS :

SIX THOUSAND civilians in Africa die EVERYDAY due to AIDS, poverty and hunger. Let's see, 3000 people died on the day of the 9/11 crash. TWICE the number of people die EVERYDAY in Africa because of lack of food and amenities. As far as I know, the situation in Africa, is in order of 10000000000000 times worse than in Iraq. Infact, although a larger section of Iraq lives in poverty, it is,believe it or not,one of the economically BETTER developed countries in Asia. People in most countries in Asia, particularly in parts of South East Asia, and far eastern asia live in just ABJECT and UNSPEAKABLY BAD poverty, it has to be seen to be believed. However, this is nothing compared to the situation in Central Africa, where living conditions approach the ZENITH. The average person in Iraq can afford to eat no more than two small meals a day. While families in these parts of Africa have to sometimes contend with one meal in THREE days!!!

And you talk about the brutality of Saddam? FYI , last year in a state called "Guajarat" in India(a country with which the US claims to have "strong relations" with, right now) over 20,000 muslims were killed by DEMOCRATICALLY elected leaders in span of THREE days. That's more than what Saddam killed in the last decade of his regime! And what about Pol Pot, under whose regime ONE million Cambodians mercilessly lost their lives? Did USA do ANYTHING about him? And in countries like Sierra Leone and Uganda, the brutality inflicted on people is such, it could make you faint. Atleast people in Iraq have some kind of administration, even be it a dictatorial regime that quells freedom of expression. However, in these parts of Africa, there IS no solid form of administration at all. Farmers grow crops, and host of military gangs simply come to the village and steal the crops. These farmers can do NOTHING about it. These military gangs also take about 50% of the women in every village they go, as sexual slaves. Any man who objects to his wife or daughter being captured has his limbs cut off. And to date, over 30,000 men in Africa have had their limbs chopped off by these gangs.

YOU look at these facts and tell me who needs liberation more? The Africans or Iraqis? If the American Government had ANY intention of helping people in the world, it would have "liberated" the people in central africa or south-far-eastern asia first! Please! Iraq seems like HEAVEN in front of these nations! Anyone who says that Iraq needed liberation is IRRESPONSIBLE, as he is NOT caring for people who need the help of the US MUCH MUCH more!! ------------------------------------------------ So we had ONE WTC attack which destroyed 3000 lives. Guess what?!?! Two tragedies equivalent to the WTC attacks happen in parts of the world EVERYDAY!!

You people REALLY REALLY do not know what is going on in the rest of the world. What these people are saying is : If the money spent on warfare is used to FEED people across the world, MANY MANY MANY more lives can be saved! Before trying to get rid of Saddam Hussain(a person who has travelled around the world will realize that he is, believe it or not, one of the BETTER dictators in this world) WHY are we ignoring feeding starving people(present US Aid funds are very very low, compared to what it is CAPABLE of giving) Or EVEN if you want to punish, names of dicatators MUCH MUCH worse (some have killed more than 20 times the people Saddam has) have lived in this world, and some still continue to live, but the US Government has done NOTHING about them. To say that the people of Iraq needed liberation more than anybody else is LAUGHABLE.


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To: qlo2
"TWICE the number of people die EVERYDAY in Africa because of lack of food and amenities."

Yep, those amenities are vital to sustaining life! I know I'd just die without access to the weight room, swimming pool, tennis courts, and clubhouse.

41 posted on 05/22/2004 4:18:17 PM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: qlo2
It's time for the

Penguin Pop!


42 posted on 05/22/2004 4:18:20 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: LindaSOG

Cool graphic!


43 posted on 05/22/2004 4:18:49 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: LindaSOG

Good shot Commander SOG!


44 posted on 05/22/2004 4:19:50 PM PDT by Lady Jag (used to be sciencediet but I found the solution)
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To: qlo2
[Saddam was]...one of the BETTER dictators in this world...

Did your mother have any children that lived?

45 posted on 05/22/2004 4:21:08 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: qlo2
If the money spent on warfare is used to FEED people across the world, MANY MANY MANY more lives can be saved!

Obviously a HS freshman who's teacher loaded him down with this poop and hasn't bothered to research anything else. It sounds good; its more humanistic; and, since people like this have the burning desire to say and do things that impress other people, liberalism idiocy is just the ticket.

There are MANY MANY MANY problems with using money spent on the war for feeding people "across the world." The first problem is that the money never gets to be spent to buy the food and feed people. The people are starving because they have a tyrannical government that's oppressing them, and those leaders have a vested interest in keeping them from being fed and whatever else. Second, after the food is gone, they will be right back to the same situation they were in before the food drive. Hungry and being slaughtered when convenient. Do we continue to feed them, in spite of the fact that they can't and won't help themselves? Third, once countries like Iran, North Korea, and the former Iraq (not to mention any looney group from the middle east hiding who knows where) know that American money will be spent on a We are the World project rather than to defend ourselves, it will be open season on all things American. Finally, our only business in this world should be to protect our own interests. Dependance begets more dependance. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings or isn't the feel good answer your teacher expects, but it is the truth.

46 posted on 05/22/2004 4:21:33 PM PDT by 1L
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To: qlo2

Have you looked at why AIDS so rampant in Sub-Saharan Africa?
The tribes put faith in their shaman, and avoid “evil” western medicine.
The touted cure is to have sexual intercourse with a young virgin.
For the men, a monogamous sexual relationship is nearly synonymous with homosexuality - homosexuality being the lesser of the two. A “real man” has sex with as many partners as possible.
Until these attitudes change, AIDS will continue to kill blacks in Africa. No amount of money will change that.


47 posted on 05/22/2004 4:22:22 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Jalapeno
Didn't last long...


49 posted on 05/22/2004 4:23:58 PM PDT by Lady Jag (used to be sciencediet but I found the solution)
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To: qlo2

I think your have your Favorites hyperlinks scrambled this is FreeRepublic, not Democratic Underground or some other such whiner board.


50 posted on 05/22/2004 4:24:08 PM PDT by kjvail
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To: qlo2

I assume that many of the folks effected by death every day are of the child persuasion. But, if the governments of these nations really wanted to attract international attention and aid, they'd bribe UN officials. Bono doesn't help just anyone, you know.


51 posted on 05/22/2004 4:24:13 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: LindaSOG

Good graphic!


52 posted on 05/22/2004 4:24:29 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: jriemer; 4mycountry; Zavien Doombringer; Alouette; MEG33; petuniasevan; Quix; squarebarb; ...

Here kitty, kitty, kitty....

53 posted on 05/22/2004 4:25:51 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: qlo2

I certainly hope you've taken time out from feeding starving people in Anywhere, Anycountry to post this thread. Because IF you are at home, comfy, cozy, FULL, and safe, you are a hypocrit. Do NOT preach unless you are prepared to show us what you've done and are now doing. Otherwise, talk to the hand.


54 posted on 05/22/2004 4:26:22 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: qlo2
Holy sh!t, I actually read through this whole idiotic diatribe. I have to admit that when I read this part...

Before trying to get rid of Saddam Hussain(sic)(a person who has travelled around the world will realize that he is, believe it or not, one of the BETTER dictators in this world)

I literally convulsed with derisive laughter. I'm left speechless by the profound stupidity of this poster.

55 posted on 05/22/2004 4:26:23 PM PDT by IoCaster ("That to live by one man's will became the cause of all men's misery." - Richard Hooker)
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To: qlo2

They just can't help themselves. They try to contain themselves, but the ugly truth surfaces. They can't help it.


56 posted on 05/22/2004 4:27:03 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: qlo2

A little sterilizing....

57 posted on 05/22/2004 4:27:04 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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58 posted on 05/22/2004 4:27:19 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said, Jim. It's all about using OTHER people's tax dollars, wasting OTHER people's time, and OUR nation's resources.


59 posted on 05/22/2004 4:27:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Extremer than any Extremist!!!)
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To: IoCaster

Yep!

60 posted on 05/22/2004 4:28:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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