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Bulldozer Rampage and Lying Liars!
No B.S. News & Commentary ^ | 6/7/04 | Russell R. Bingman

Posted on 06/07/2004 3:52:36 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

The whole country saw last Friday’s awe inspiring events taking place in the little tourist mountain town of Granby, Colorado, broadcast by local Denver television affiliates through their network news organizations. Local resident and former muffler shop owner Marvin Heemeyer had finally had enough of being pushed around and told to go to hell by local politicians and public servants, who refer to themselves as "public officials" — the people in charge! The politically correct spin is being applied quite liberally by most of the news media, maligning Heemeyer as a "madman" and Granby town mayor Edward Wang calling him an "unpleasant man, full of bluster and rage — I’m trying to be politically correct, but this guy was a nasty son of a bitch — he had the maturity level of a 5 year old." Nobody else Granby seems to share Mayor Wang’s level of seething hatred of Heemeyer, although Grand County Emergency Management Director Jim Halihan knowingly and deliberately lied to press and news media that Heemeyer had a .50 caliber machine gun and was supposedly shooting at everybody in town. The Denver Post newspaper, channel 9 KUSA and channel 7 KMGH reported this as fact. Only CBS affiliate KCNC channel 4 refrained from broadcasting the lie, and eventually confirmed that Heemeyer did NOT have a .50 caliber machine gun, which they made clear in their broadcast.

While most news media has reported that some unidentified witnesses said that Heemeyer was firing shots form his homemade tank, a D9 Caterpillar bulldozer covered in armor plating and concrete, other witnesses who were less than 100 feet from the 53 ton vehicle say that Heemeyer never fired a shot, that only police and sheriff’s deputies were firing. Certain facts remain indisputable: No weapons or guns have been produced, least of all any kind of a .50 caliber weapon, and no one was hurt or injured during the 2 to 3 hour melee, save for Marvin Heemeyer, who was found dead inside of the cab of the vehicle at 2:00 AM Saturday morning, after SWAT and sheriff’s deputies spent an hour using a cutting torch and 3 separate blasts with military high explosives, to gain entry through the top of the make-shift tank. Grand County Sheriff’s Office released a statement claiming that Heemeyer shot himself in the head with a pistol, and that the pistol was found on the floor of the bulldozer. Heemeyer’s body wasn’t removed until several hours later, because cops said that they feared Heemeyer may have booby trapped himself. There were also claims that Heemeyer had at least 2 rifles mounted up inside the cab of his make-shift tank, aimed out small port holes, however, one local fireman who assisted in extricating Heemeyer’s body from the vehicle, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that there were no weapons inside of cab, and that he had been present for for several hours and never saw any weapons removed. He had been present when the explosives and the cutting torch were employed to cut a hole into the top of the cab. Both Grand County Sheriff Rod Johnson and Under-sheriff Glen Trainor have refused to say what weapons, if any, were found. Sheriff Johnson reportedly was nowhere to be seen on Friday or Saturday, until he made a statement late Saturday evening, leaving many wondering who was actually in charge of the Grand County Sheriff’s Office — Johnson or Trainor, the latter whom jumped on top of the moving tank and fired 37 rounds from his .40 caliber sidearm, trying to shoot a hole through the armor, which was later described as being 2 plates of half-inch thick steel, with a foot of concrete poured between them.

While Under-sheriff Trainor and the Colorado State Patrol are now claiming that Heemeyer tried to kill two Colorado State Troopers who were hiding behind a concrete wall, this contention is a reversal of earlier statements by cops, who said emphatically that Heemeyer seemed to be going out of his way to avoid hurting anyone, that it was only buildings and vehicles that he was targeting with the slow moving machine. Now, the claim being made by Trainor is that once Heemeyer spotted the cowering troopers, he tried to push a concrete wall on top of them with the bulldozer’s blade, but they managed to escape. None of the eye witnesses support this story. To the contrary, eyewitnesses confirm that Heemeyer never used his homemade tank aggressively toward any people — only buildings and a few automobiles. Trainor was quoted by the press as saying that as soon as he arrived in town, "I knew that this guy had to be killed to stop this." Some cops it seems, just can’t wait to get to pull the trigger!

Heemeyer’s rampage, as press and news media have widely reported, was precipitated by a four year losing battle with the town council of Granby, who, despite widespread opposition from residents, altered town zoning codes and ordinances, to allow Mountain Park Concrete to build and operate a cement batch plant next to Heemeyer’s muffler shop, a move which forced Heemeyer out of business due to the dust and pollution of the plant. Mayor Wang presided over most of the council’s forceful actions. One thing that Colorado news media has not reported, is that Wang, according to many Granby residents, has a very angry and hostile attitude toward all of the residents of Granby and Grand County who opposed Mountain Park Concrete. Many residents have been and still are contending that Wang and the Granby Town Council accepted bribes and payoffs from Mountain Park Concrete, to alter zoning codes and allow them to build and operate. Many Granby residents are calling for Governor Bill Owens, who visited the site of Granby’s destruction, to order the Colorado Attorney General to conduct an investigation of the Granby Town Council and Mayor Wang in regard to their dealings with Mountain Park Concrete. Wang and some of the council members have acknowledged that Heemeyer and others in the past, made allegations of such impropriety and illegal actions, but all say that they did nothing wrong. At least two Granby residents have said, on the condition of anonymity, that Wang and council members have refused to acknowledge whether or not they have received any financial contributions to their election campaigns. Efforts are now underway, under Colorado election laws, to obtain these records.

Some news media sources reported over the weekend, that the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, when asked for information about Marvin Heemeyer’s biography, reported that "their records" indicated that Heemeyer was born in South Dakota. However, the CBI apparently did not say why they had a file on Heemeyer. It has been confirmed that Heemeyer does not have any criminal record, so it remains, "Why does the Colorado Bureau of Investigation have a file on Marvin Heemeyer? Is it for a concealed carry gun permit? Or, as some concerned citizens have said, ‘Wang, the town council and certain Grand county authorities have created an ‘enemies’ list of the people who are politically outspoken and who have opposed various actions of the town council or the county commissioners.’ " It is well known and widely practiced act, in Colorado and around the country, for police and sheriff’s departments, and other agencies, to compile such lists. Only a couple of years ago, it was discovered that Mayor Wellington Webb of Denver, and the Denver Police Department had such lists. They were court ordered to destroy these lists and their data bases, but many sources say the lists continue. Questions must be asked, given the flurry of lies and false information put out by Grand County Under-sheriff Glen Trainor, County Emergency Management Director Jim Halihan and Mayor Edward Wang, and their attempt to demonize a man described by everyone else in Granby, as being a kind, gentle and helping kind of guy. One man whose business was damaged by Heemeyer, appeared to bear little or no animosity toward him, saying that he and Heemeyer went snowmobiling together, as well as many other activities, and that they were good friends. Others in town said, "Marv was the kind of guy who’d do anything to help anybody — he was just simply a nice man. He was pushed into this by these people."

Marvin Heemeyer was a 6 foot-4 inch, 230 pound, gentle giant, according to most of the people in Granby and Grand County who have bothered to speak up. Those who have spoken against him seem to be at a loss as to why nobody is corroborating their statements, or disputing them. Others are pointing out the city’s greed factor — the insatiable lust and desire for MONEY — and their indifference to whom they hurt in their pursuit of that capitalistic gain. Is Edward Wang and the Granby Town Council just another bunch of greedy money whores? One of the council members was complaining Sunday afternoon, that they feared that Heemeyer’s act of destruction would hurt the town’s tourist income. But as many people noted, weekend tourism appeared to be about triple its normal rate, with many curiosity seekers coming to town just to see and photograph the aftermath of Marvin Heemeyer’s last ride. His brother, Ken Heemeyer has been quoted as saying of Marvin, "He was one of the best guys out there. He would bend over backwards for anybody."

Denver’s KCNC Channel 4 took a step in the right direction by reporting the truth about Jim Halihan’s lie and the spurious statement that Marvin Heemeyer was shooting at everybody with a .50 caliber machine gun. Perhaps they’ll have the tenacity to go further, and dig into the activities of Mayor Wang and the town council — and maybe even look at Jim Halihan and Under-sheriff Trainor. Nobody was hurt, save for Marvin Heemeyer, who now lays dead. He wasn’t the "son of a bitch" Mayor Wang claims. Wang, it seems, just hates people who believe in a legal, constitutional process, and who have the audacity to challenge and question elected public servants. Peons and serfs beware! The stories and the facts don’t jive. Maybe the truth will change all of that!


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No .50 cal, no machine gun, no pistol. Not ever a Red Ryder BB gun. The gun grabbers are sad, very sad!
1 posted on 06/07/2004 3:52:36 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: *bang_list

Bang?


2 posted on 06/07/2004 3:58:25 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." -General Patton)
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To: TERMINATTOR

It seems to appear that Heemeyer has more in common with our founding fathers than the current batch of polititions in Grandy do.

There are a lot of other small towns in this position, I suspect.

It's a twist on The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia...


3 posted on 06/07/2004 4:02:58 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Alright, I'll say it:
When D9s are outlawed...
4 posted on 06/07/2004 4:39:44 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: TERMINATTOR; Admin Moderator

This is news. Full of factual reports about an event that many of us consider to be important. Please do not let those who turned the earlier related thread into a flame war gain the power to essentially supress the news by getting threads pulled.


5 posted on 06/07/2004 5:01:01 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

I not sure what article you read, but the one up above is filled with uncorroborated claims and inuendo. Seems that both sides are doing that. It would be nice to read the real facts somewhere.


6 posted on 06/07/2004 5:29:56 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

Seems that both sides are doing that. It would be nice to read the real facts somewhere.



Agreed. But it seems that what the cops claim is "news," and what others claim is not.


7 posted on 06/07/2004 5:50:14 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Remember the nut doing the same in a tank some 10 or so years ago? I think this is him...


8 posted on 06/07/2004 6:00:44 PM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: TERMINATTOR

That's funny I saw the inside of his tractor and it had a .308 or similiar caliber rifle mounted and aimed through a firing hole in the "up armored" area of the dozer.

I don't know how bad this guy was treated by his local govt. but to pretend he was unarmed and describe him as harmless is ludicrous.

He wasn't going to Hardees for a cheeseburger.


9 posted on 06/08/2004 10:49:43 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (She's got it all, beauty and looks.)
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To: TERMINATTOR; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ..

PING.................


10 posted on 06/09/2004 6:48:15 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks.


11 posted on 06/09/2004 6:52:07 AM PDT by Kate of Spice Island (Sharayah the kilt wearer...purple floral...)
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To: TERMINATTOR; Squantos

A foot of concrete between two steel plates seems to have been pretty effective armor. I'm guessing the breeching charges killed him.


12 posted on 06/09/2004 7:08:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee; SLB
Too bad someone didn't think to "attack" this agry individuals ehaust and air intake with dangerous "dihydrogen monoxide"............properly applied by local professionals that were present the dozer would have been a paper weight and nothing more. But if swat has their toys and any possible reason to use em then they do. Too bad they didn't think before they "overkilled" this dummy.

Stay safe

13 posted on 06/09/2004 8:04:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: theDentist

Is that dufus Dukakis giving the thumbs up like your boy Kerry did when he was leaving Reagan's viewing yesterday? What is it with these Mass. libs?


14 posted on 06/09/2004 8:04:53 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Chieftain

I haven't seen a photo of PeeWee. Did he do that?


15 posted on 06/09/2004 8:07:16 AM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: Chieftain

Sorry, I was thinking of something else. This photo he seems to be pointing.


16 posted on 06/09/2004 8:08:47 AM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Was Janet Reno in town that day?

Oh, that's right, it couldn't have been her... the body wasn't BURNT TO A CRISP!

17 posted on 06/09/2004 8:09:01 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: RobRoy
You tellin' me this guy is some kinda hero?

Fascinating.

18 posted on 06/09/2004 8:09:08 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (farewell to a great president.)
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To: big ern
I don't know how bad this guy was treated by his local govt. but to pretend he was unarmed and describe him as harmless is ludicrous.

He wasn't going to Hardees for a cheeseburger.

Ah, good. The whole world hasn't gone flippin' nuts. ~wipes brow~

19 posted on 06/09/2004 8:10:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (farewell to a great president.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

I am not an expert on dozers, but it does seem strange that no one in the town of Granby, which is rural, knew anything about smothering a diesel engine. The air intake on most "Cats" is up out of the dust and dirt and thus easy to get to. I learned at a very early age the best way to stop a run away diesel was to take away the air supply. It seems like if nothing else, get a fire hose aimed directly up through the air intake of the pre-cleaner. But then again, maybe the local LEO wanted to try out their new toys and this was the opportunity.


20 posted on 06/09/2004 8:49:14 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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