"My advice to you is ... Start drinking heavily."
I'm on to Rove's plans ... Hate the pig, but have to admire his devious genius. What he's presently working is this ... If the memo's are indeed fakes he definitely would be the one pushing them. Even if the memos are real, the heavy hammering by shills is having the effect of creating doubt. Also, he's got shills asking leading questions at press conferences like "why is the White house allowing people like the AP and people like CBS to have access to press conferences after their anti-Bush lies". (booing of Bush, forged memos, etc) The reason this is being done is to set precedent that anything anti Bush is a lie. By discrediting the media at this stage anything that comes out negative between now and the election will be automatically suspect and eventually automatically discounted. He's creating an atmosphere of doubt while simultaneously distracting from anything substantial or issue oriented.
"Forgery" issue is another publican lie. publicanism equates with pathological prevarication and psychotic willfull ignorance.
Did Rove plant the CBS TANG documents? Did he do the same to Hatfield author of Fortunate Son, the book which broke the story of Bush's cocaine conviction back in 2000?
Send this story to Olberman at MSNBC. He already thinks it is Rove but I don't know if he knows the Hatfield story.
The documents are genuine. Real signatures, real sentiments, real events...real. No hard evidence has been put up to challenge them, only hearsay. "Probably", "likely"--not good enough, especially when not coming from experts.
I think its Rove.... ...this stuff benefits the Bush team more than the Kerry team. Keeps the focus off his record while time is wasted on this stuff.
The RNC Did This This is a total plant by the fascists in the RNC. Rove has got his fingerprints all over this. I wouldn't be surprised if CBS was in on it to try to damage Kerry. They should also look into probable involvement by Israel.
This is a totalitarian hijacking of our democracy, our freedoms of speech, and a DIRECT THREAT to Mr. Dan Rather, Citizen of the United States!!
My guess is that someone knew the true story about Bush's going awol, but lacking a smoking gun, created one. This is why the White House didn't denounce the doucuments when they say them; they knew they were the truth. Only now it comes out that the docs are a crude forgery. It was really stupid of CBS not to do a better job.
What unadulterated crap. Rather knows what he's doing, and... ...I get the sense that FratBoy will wish that he'd never tangled with him.
CBS is doing Democrats no favors here... I agree with IndianaGreen - stonewalling is like waving a hankie on a stick to divert attention from the fact that you aren't wearing any pants. It didn't work for Tricky Dick and it won't work for Dan. Rather is starting to make me cringe, while the Repugs smirk self-righteously. No one needs those stinking documents to assert that the chimp was a shirker -- there is plenty of other evidence -- but as long as the spotlight is on the documents' authenticity, it's off Boosh.
CBS has been AMAZING at disclosing the crap that the * Administration has gotten away with. I think they deserve everyone's support here.
The most amazing thing about this story is that it demonstrates the evil genius of Karl Rove and his gang of scumbags. They have framed the story as being about the veracity of the documents rather than about the substance of the accusations. Damn them to hell!
Here's my guess as to what happened: someone knows exactly how Bush avoided Vietnam and how he didn't fullfill his guard service. This person knew all the details, but didn't have any smoking guns, so forged some documents. CBS got ahold of these documents and it asked other people if their contents were believable, and of course people in the know, such as the secretary, said yes. CBS passed the documents to the White House, who looked at them and said holy shit! This is exactly what happened. So the White House didn't denounce them. At the same time, CBS ignored some critics who stated that the documents were foged: They went ahead with the story, and now we have forged documents that state the truth.
Wow. I mean, wow. I thought we had some tinfoilers on this site, but just damn.
"My advice to you is ... Start drinking heavily."
"This is a totalitarian hijacking of our democracy, our freedoms of speech, and a DIRECT THREAT to Mr. Dan Rather, Citizen of the United States!! "
Wow. These people are scary. AND it's NOT a democracy, it's a REPUBLIC, you misguided fools. DU is a good place for ya. Too bad you can vote.