Posted on 10/26/2004 11:10:51 AM PDT by TheNewPatriot
The Kerry Campaign and the Marxists/Socialists Democrats are putting in place massive voter fraud and threatening to force a Marxists takeover of our government attempting to validate our election process if Kerry wins as legitimate and illegitimate if he looses by dragging this election through the courts. By doing so, they will proceed with eliminating the Electoral College in favor of the popular vote knowing they can control the vote in densely populated regions of the country. Thus, imposing their Marxist view upon all of us by having elections decided through a judicial process and eventually, mob rule. We have a bumbling GOP in Ohio where the court deals a nasty blow to thieving Democrats and these Republicans screw up thousands of challenges because of errors in their filings. The end result, Democrats can proceed with their fraud anyway. It seems you Republicans dont take this voter fraud seriously even when the jackasses on left come right out and say they are going to do this. What do you think? Do you think theyre going to adhere to the election process outlined in our constitution? You guys better wake up, this isnt the Democratic Party of fifty years ago and from this point on I am not going to refer to them as Democrats they are Marxists. These people dont view America the way you do, they have no respect for the constitution, they consider it inadequate, outdated, so it doesnt apply to them. They dont recognize our laws, our morals, or the difference between right and wrong. You expect the Marxist Party to play by the Marcus of Queensbury rules. You think that if we are nice to them, theyll be nice in return. Well, theyre not nice, they terrorize Bush supporters, they go so far off the deep end writing a book on how to assassinate the President, use thugs to intimidate voters, they make up stories and attack this President at every opportunity, and criticize America every chance they get. They are not Americans, they are not patriotic, they hate America as it is, they hate our military, they dont believe in freedom, and if they had their way, Bush and the rest of us would be dead. Wait a minute that sounds like the Muslim terrorists. Whats that old saying? The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This brings me to my question, now that I am off my rant, how far are you willing to go to hold onto America? What am I proposing? Well, John Kerry shouldnt be Senator, much less, running for President. What good are our civil or military laws if we dont act against the violators of these laws. I think you all know what I am about to say next. I also know that most of you seen and read a post dealing with this back in September. SO, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? Are we just going to continue talking about it and do nothing? John Kerry was, and still is, in direct violation of federal intercourse with the enemy laws.
There is no statue of limitations on this and we have even more evidence that places Kerry directly making contact with the Viet Cong leader in Paris to promote her plans of demanding a U.S. surrender. Whether he consciously carried out their direction or naively did what they wanted, it amounted to the same thing he advanced their cause. What are we so afraid of by not pursuing this traitor for his actions? He advanced the cause of our enemy when he came home from Vietnam, he advanced all our enemys interests with his voting record while in office, and now, he continues to advance our enemys cause by criticizing this war. And its obvious (not to John Kerry), that his rhetoric criticizes our military. It doesnt promote good moral for our troops, and shows how he would let our military hang out to dry and swing in the wind if he had to choose between supporting our military or the world.
If the Marxists want to pursue voter fraud and then drag the courts into this election, then I say we invalidate Kerrys candidacy and meet them head on with the charge of treason. Even the perception of impropriety is enough to sink him. The difference here is, it's not even perception, there's enough evidence to hang the bastard. You people have to get past the perception that he or the Marxist elites are Americans, they arent. Not under the definition that we know.
In sum, John Kerryan American citizen and a naval officer, with no authority granted by his governmentmade arrangements while in the United States to meet with Americas enemies. He then traveled across the Atlantic, conferred with the communists in Paris, absorbed their terms for peace in Vietnam, returned to the United States to publicly endorse monstrous plans that trafficked in the lives of our POWs, and by so doing defeat[ed] the measures of the United States. This makes John Kerry a violator of federal intercourse with the enemy laws. He is nothing more than a criminal running for the highest office in our nation.
Perhaps it's time for a popular uprising?
Since this would take a constitutional amendment, we're not likely to see the electoral college process go away, ever. They'd never get enough state legislatures to vote for it.
"He is nothing more than a criminal running for the highest office in our nation."
Just the same as William Jefferson Clinton. It seems to make no difference does it. I think it means they can't find an honest Democrat.
I'm down....
My decision is made:
If Kerry wins I will no longer consider myself a citizen of the United States.
My allegiance will be with the new "Free Republic of Texas"
Civil disobedience and non-violent confrontation with our foes...
I wonder how much of this violates provisions of the Patriot Act?
No, it's not. If, heaven forbid, Kerry wins, we work to oppose him, and work even harder to remove him in 2008, and try to keep the country together and functioning in the meantime, while decimating any credibility the MSM still has.
None that I can see, unless there is a provision in that act for using "Marcus" instead of "Marquis".
If you walk out of your house with your rifle and you see all your neighbors doing the same thing, it's time for an uprising. If you come out of your house with your rifle and you're standing in the street all alone, it isn't time yet and you had better prepare to be WACO'd.
BLOAT
Count me in. It's long overdue.
If the Damnocrats use their filthy lawyer tricks to pull the election into a court room so one judge can appoint a President there WILL be a civil war.
It probably won't be two armies facing off at Antietam, but two ideologies facing off across the country.
I'd expect the Justice Dept. & the Pentagon to side with Bush against Kerry and his minions. This would be the best situation in my opinion where decent people would stand up and, if needed, bear arms with the police and military to defend the nation against a coup d'etat.
Worst case: Bush decides to let the Kerrycrats take the White House with a court order instead of creating a Constitutional crisis. Then it falls to the people to topple the government and install a new one. This would be VERY bad!
While the USA is busy with a civil war the Middle East would explode into a conflagration, China would seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan, North Korea would invade South Korea and probably shoot at our bases in Japan and Okinawa, and Europe would be expected to suppport the Democrat-socialists in the US.
Easily, our civil war could develop into a broader world war.
I do hope that the US Supreme Court would keep this all in mind if they have to rule on Damnocrat stunts to steal the election - which today's polls indicate is going to go to Bush.
If the war starts at all, it will start in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. If you don't know why, then Google it and find out why.
You're naive-- it would only take a series of court decisions regarding "Constutional guidance" for how electors must be chosen to preserve the "civil rights" of the "disenfranchised" to force the institution of a proportional allocation of electors.
Or, they could simply appeal to EU law and say the "evolving standards of decency" require proportional representation to achive the same goal.
"Perhaps it's time for a popular uprising?"
No, it's not. And suggesting such a thing here on FR is a darned poor idea.
This nation is divided, almost exactly in half, politically. Kerry could conceivably win. Bush could conceivably win.
There's not going to be some sort of revolution in either case, and to suggest that as a possibility is simply ridiculous.
It's all bloviating, frankly, and belongs somewhere being spoken over a beer or two, not on this public forum.
I'm surprised this thread is still here. I doubt it will be for long.
RE: how far are you willing to go to hold onto America
I am more than willing to go after Kerry on charges of treason. And I would not stop there. Every other traitor with regards to the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Cold War, detente and every other process whereby the US has been in conflict with Communist and Islamist anti Western nation states and international movements, since the 1930s, should be pursued. We need to, once and for all, make it very-not-OK to "in the interest of humanity" or "in the interest of whorled peas" or "for the children" break the Federal Laws regarding dealing with, trading with and consorting with our enemies. The ambiguity of globalist liberalism and "democratic" socialism leads ultimately to treason if there is not a counteracting force of unambiguous rules of comportment and national honor. The solutions are simple, what has been lacking thus far has been a mass accepted will to undertake them.
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Yeah ... right!
We wouldn't want to hurt ourselves, or others.
"Vanity of vanities, all is vanity."
Once again, here are more people taking the most extreme stance they possibly can when faced with the idea of a leader that they disagree with.
America has had liberal presidents before. This is not something new. One of the beauties of democracy is that people can be elected that other people don't like. That's part of the point. If people decided to revolt every time someone was in power that they didn't like, it would be perpetual. As a matter of fact, America wouldn't have gotten much further than the 1700's.
There are three branches of government. If you don't like who is occupying the executive branch, you have both the legislative and the judicial branch to turn to. There is more to American government than who is president.
But go ahead. Go ahead with your dramatics and "renounce your American citizenship". How painful that will be for the rest of us.
I know I'm talking to the wind here, though.
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