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Hugh Fitzgerald: "We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap"
jihadwatch ^ | jan 21 | Hugh Fitzgerald

Posted on 01/23/2005 3:52:43 AM PST by dennisw

Fitzgerald: "We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap"

Jihad Watch Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald reflects on recent Muslim complaints that they are unfairly suspected and discriminated against: "We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap."

There is no Muslim contribution to the American polity, not to the entire edifice of the American political system. The Shari'a flatly contradicts, in every way, the American Constitution. The economic views encouraged by Islam -- a combination of relying on booty from the conquered Unbelievers (attacked purely for that booty, beginning with the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis), and on jizyah (or disguised "jizyah" as in the Bumiputra system in Malaysia, or the way in which non-oil Muslim states such as Egypt have managed to extract from the endlessly naive Western world tens of billions of dollars in Infidel aid, repaid not with gratitude but with ratcheting up the level of hate), and with a heavy dose of inshallah-fatalism, is completely the opposite of American notions of self-reliance, individual effort and achievement.

In social matters, Islam is as absurdly reactionary -- "honor" killings, the oppression of women, the Total Reliance on the Authority of Books Concocted between the 7th and 9th centuries (Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira) possibly in Arabia, possibly to its north, in present-day Iraq, Syria, or Jordan. which, as an ideal to be encouraged, even if it is hardly the whole story -- as it is possible to be. That some people who claim to be Muslims still function in the modern world is a tribute only to their ability to ignore much of Islam.

In intellectual matters, no sculpture, no painting of living creatures save for Mughal miniatures, that were despite, not because, of Islam, no music (hence the attacks in Algeria on those singers of Rai), no real science (weapons technology -- ah, that's a different thing).

And yet this primitive system, simply by dint of the utter foolishness, sentimentality, mental laziness, and above all ingratitude of the inhabitants of the Western world for what they have inherited as a civilizational legacy, could by force of numbers -- sheer overbreeding -- and Da’wa appeals to the psychically and economically marginal (always ready to try on anything that may Explain The Universe and Get Back at The System) -– conceivably prevail.

Look at how, in the last two days, all sorts of newspapers have fallen all over themselves with pictures of Muslims sweetly celebrated the Eid al-Adha -- in North Dakota, for god's sake, not to mention elsewhere. The word seems to have gone out to the American press: Make Islam Look Good.

And since what is Bad about Islam are the actual tenets, and those, assimilated into the brain, cannot be shown in pictures -- though the murderous results of Islamic beliefs, and the results, too, of Islamic practices over 1400 years, can be seen in the reduction of ancient Mesopotamia, and its once-entirely non-Muslim population to what is now an almost entirely Muslim population -- like what you see? would you like America or Europe to turn into that, over time? it won't take 1400 years, but less than a century to throw out all of Western civilization because "we all want the same thing" and "we all share the faith of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar" and...oh good god, fill in the rest of the nonsense yourself, culled from the paper, or some idiotic NPR news program, or something on the Lord Haw Haw broadcasts from the BBC, where the likes of Judy Swallow or Robin Lustig, marionetted from above by the sinister John Simpson (#3 at Bush House), have created a special BBC house blend of anti-Americanism, antisemitism, and therefore, of course, islamophilia, that has by degrees helped to mentally disarm tens of millions of listeners.

No, it is we Infidels who are getting "sick of this crap."



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1 posted on 01/23/2005 3:52:43 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

http://www.wnbc.com/news/4113911/detail.html
"We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap," he said. "Why should we have to apologize for or make a defense of something we had nothing to do with? There is no proof at all that Muslims had anything to do with this, yet we are taking the blame again. Is Islam on trial, or is a killer on trial?"

For people like Ahmed Shedeed, director of the Islamic Center of Jersey City, the accusatory feeling is all too familiar.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 3:54:11 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: dennisw

This author has one of the ugliest writing styles I have ever encountered.


3 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:15 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dennisw
"We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap"

Good!

Go back to Whereveristan.
4 posted on 01/23/2005 3:58:46 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry has now met with the enemy during war two times, in 1970 and again in 2005.)
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"People are so willing to condemn an entire religion," she said. "That's what the big problem is. People commit crimes; religions don't. I hope we can be intelligent enough to separate those two."
Hmmmmm thats a real nice thought.tell that to al zarqawi.


5 posted on 01/23/2005 4:02:06 AM PST by VaRepublican
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To: johniegrad

agreed.


6 posted on 01/23/2005 4:06:03 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11!)
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To: johniegrad
This author has one of the ugliest writing styles I have ever encountered.

Based on reading his other articles? He covered all bases here. His take on Islam is very close to mine. He's a genius on Islam, perhaps he didn't take composition in college.

7 posted on 01/23/2005 4:09:17 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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I have no beef with the content. It's just that the way he expressed it detracted from getting his message across. I've not read anything else by him.


8 posted on 01/23/2005 4:11:08 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dennisw
Fitzgerald: "We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap"

Good. Get the f*** out. I just read today that Islam cannot tolerate a democracy. You are the f***ing enemy. Leave our country or die.

9 posted on 01/23/2005 4:12:17 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: dennisw
His take on Islam is very close to mine. He's a genius on Islam

If A=B, and B=C, the A=C. :-)

10 posted on 01/23/2005 4:14:41 AM PST by johniegrad
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I'll admit this one is rough and elliptical. Hugh Fitzgerald has written better. He was such a good poster at Jihad Watch that the site owner asked him to contribute essays


11 posted on 01/23/2005 4:14:58 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: VaRepublican
"People are so willing to condemn an entire religion," she said. "That's what the big problem is. People commit crimes; religions don't. I hope we can be intelligent enough to separate those two."

No, it's not the problem. It's the solution. Islam is evil to its core, and it cannot peacefully coexist with other religions, or even democracy. It is a blood cult of a moon god, repressing females and even mutilating their genitalia. It is sick, perverse, twisted religion that I cannot abide.

12 posted on 01/23/2005 4:15:36 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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I'll watch for him. If you say he's better than this, I'll take your word for it.


13 posted on 01/23/2005 4:16:10 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Jihad Watch Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald reflects on recent Muslim complaints that they are unfairly suspected and discriminated against: "We Muslims living in America are getting sick of this crap."

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If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

14 posted on 01/23/2005 4:18:51 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Lazamataz

That was a quote from the article.As far as Im concerned I have tried to live my life without being rascist I have tried to teach my children the same however,I am having a difficult time with Islam.I do not want to hate an entire group of people but by their own actions and words they sure as hell hate me.Atleast enough of "them" do to give me concern.So what choice does one have.I love my country and my way of life.I do not want my wife or daughter in a veil and I do not want my son to burn tires.Sorry im just blabbing on.


15 posted on 01/23/2005 4:33:19 AM PST by VaRepublican
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That was a quote from the article.As far as Im concerned I have tried to live my life without being rascist I have tried to teach my children the same however,I am having a difficult time with Islam.I do not want to hate an entire group of people but by their own actions and words they sure as hell hate me.

Relax into your hatred. Never before have an entire race or religion stood for raw evil, as Islam does. Even Nazism was only a political movement.

This is a unique challenge in the history of our species -- a religion based on hatred of democracy, repression and mutilation of women, and violence for its own sake. This will resolve one of two ways: 1) Islam will win, and the world will be stuck in the 7th century, women will be bhurka'd and mutilated, democracy will be outlawed, and Sharia will make sure that our wills are meaningless, or 2) Islam will be outlawed.

16 posted on 01/23/2005 4:39:05 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: VaRepublican
That was a quote from the article.As far as I'm concerned I have tried to live my life without being rascist I have tried to teach my children the same however,I am having a difficult time with Islam.I do not want to hate an entire group of people but by their own actions and words they sure as hell hate me. At least enough of "them" do to give me concern. So what choice does one have. I love my country and my way of life. I do not want my wife or daughter in a veil and I do not want my son to burn tires.Sorry I'm just blabbing on.

No, you aren't babbling- you are making perfect sense to me.

I wrote the following a while back, and I mean, and stand by, each word of it:


The entire West ( dare I say "the civilized World?" ) is locked in a fight to the death with militant Islam.

There will be no second-place winner, no "third way" solution-- it is March or Die time, folks.

It is Us versus an eighth-century "culture" of plunder & pillage, forced religious "conversions," and the mistreatment of women.

The sooner we face up to this fact realistically and quit dancing around PC talking-point nonsense about diversity and tolerance, the better off we'll all be.

We did not pick this fight- which really has roots in Jimmy Carter's appeasement in 1979 of militants- but we had damned well better see it for what it is, and be prepared to face it and finish it.

I'll put it in raw, personal terms-- I don't want Sharia law visited upon my women, and I don't want a goat-roper "culture" infesting my land.

I don't want their vile, nasty, loathsome weapons of mass destruction loosed upon my fair country, either.

They picked the fight, and now it is up to us to finish it- balls to the wall, hammer and anvil, fire and blood and iron... freedom is never, ever free, and the coin you pay it in is men's lives and tears and blood.

What we saw during Gulf War I was our military doctrine ( high tech ) versus Soviet doctrine ( throw a lot of low tech iron at the problem )-- and we all know how that turned out.

What we saw in the 3-Week War is Information-Tech,
( What some are calling it Hyperwarfare... )
or 21st Century warfare versus 20th Century...

What I would suggest, and call your attention to, is the fact that we, and Israel, are capable of waging 21st Century warfare, and the entire Arab world is not.

Proven fact, by recent events.

One more thing- this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors- so I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron...


Furthermore, if you wish to see some of the reasons I reached this hard position, click the picture, go to the "last," and work backwards for all you need to know, and probably more than you want to know, about Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )--


17 posted on 01/23/2005 4:42:15 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: johniegrad
This author has one of the ugliest writing styles I have ever encountered.

I noticed that. It would not be proper for me to denounce, since it so closely resembles my own. But the content is right-on.

18 posted on 01/23/2005 4:58:59 AM PST by labette
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To: dennisw

This infidel is getting sick of this crap. The MSM is on a mission to give the religion of 'peace' a nice face.

Go check out this site if you want a good laugh at just how silly the religion of peace is. If you aren't sure how Allah wants you to relieve yourself in a bathroom - ask the imam.

http://islam.tc/ask-imam/index.php


19 posted on 01/23/2005 5:13:27 AM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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To: johniegrad
"This author has one of the ugliest writing styles I have ever encountered."

If your comment is about the technical side of his writing I agree. It's a good example of writing for the ear and not for the eye. I imagine it sounds better read with the proper inflections and emphases. Trying to read it was tough.

20 posted on 01/23/2005 5:13:39 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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