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Terri's Starvation Commences: Terri's "Exit Protocol" Begins
Thrown Back ^ | March 18, 2005 | Fr. Rob Johansen

Posted on 03/18/2005 8:03:06 PM PST by sionnsar

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To: joesnuffy

Correct. The sacrificing of innocent children is a very good example:

Leviticus Chapter 18:

verse 21 "And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God: I am the LORD."

verses 24-29 "Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you. For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants. You shall therefore keep My statues and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, either any of your own nation or any stranger who dwells among you. For all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled. Lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you. For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from amoung their people."

From New Kings James Version

God was telling the "Children of Israel" that the land He was giving them was not to be defiled by the acts those preceeding them had done. One example in verse 21 was child sacrifices. It is clear by the redundancy of the text that He was sterning warning them that they too would be "vomited out" for defiling the land. It is my belief this same principle holds true for the U.S. also. Abide these "abominations" and risk having the land "vomit you out." BTW - other "abominations" listed in the chapter include adultery, beastiality, homosexuality, incest, et. al.


41 posted on 03/18/2005 8:51:43 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Hitler killed six million. America has slaughtered 20 - 30 million in the womb.

Hitler muredered by pure force. American women have done it willingly.

42 posted on 03/18/2005 8:56:03 PM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: kalee

"The clincher on this is that my mother even though she had power of attorney could not override the treatment hospice was delivering because my stepfather had a living will and had signed himself into hospice."

We have had scandals about nursing home abuse here in Oklahoma, and steps have been attempted to remedy it. Sounds like Florida has made legal what would be considered abuse elsewhere. Let me speculate....the hospice wanted him to die quickly so it would save them expense?


43 posted on 03/18/2005 9:02:08 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: sionnsar
"Michael and Felos went on national television a few nights ago, and told viewers that Terri wasn't going to be starved to death, but that she was going to be "allowed to die". I suppose in some Orwellian alternate universe that might be true, but now, in regards to Terri, it is a monstrous, flat out lie."

The alternate universe is death, lies and selfishness. Period. If someones says a lie long enough people will start to believe it. There are a lot of dumb people. And a lot of people with little or no ability to look into the truth of a matter or be able to discern the truth with any degree of intelligence.
44 posted on 03/18/2005 9:15:12 PM PST by Bittersweetmd ((But, for the grace of God there go I .))
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To: sionnsar; NautiNurse; edskid; oprahstheantichrist; goldstategop; Salvation; Sola Veritas; ...

terrisfight.org

45 posted on 03/18/2005 9:23:05 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Salvation

Here's a question: We don't know exactly what the state of her mind is, but, if you were Terri Schiavo, would you want to live in a half-live, half-dead state where you can observe your hospital room, but not interact in anyway whatsoever with the world? That seems like a hellish nightmare to me.


46 posted on 03/18/2005 9:34:24 PM PST by billybudd
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To: sionnsar
Michael and Felos went on national television a few nights ago, and told viewers that Terri wasn't going to be starved to death, but that she was going to be "allowed to die".

I haven't followed this story closely, but why not simply give her the same lethal cocktail they give to condemned murderers? If we simply withheld food and water from a death row inmate, it'd never stand.

47 posted on 03/18/2005 9:38:09 PM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; Smartass

           LEVIN
           BOXER
           WYDEN

48 posted on 03/18/2005 9:42:02 PM PST by devolve ( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/DeadZone.html)
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To: NautiNurse

Felos and the other lowlife scum at the ACLU are doing everything they can to see to it that Terri is starved to death.These demented pigs will then do the exact opposite and fight to spare the life of the vile piece of shit that murdered little Jessica Lundgren.They are the most backward bunch of freaks who always end up protecting the scum of the earth.Maybe they do it because this is the type of sick pervert who belongs to their diseased organization.


49 posted on 03/18/2005 9:48:02 PM PST by rdcorso (We Are A Nation Fighting Against The Deadly Disease Of Liberalism)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
My father passed away last year at age 91. He had been diagnosed with dementia in his early 80s. He quickly lost his ability to communicate coherently. My mother never gave up hope and single-handledly care for him up until 6 months before he died. While in the earlier stages we assumed that he was increasingly unaware of his surroundings, we later learned through a new type of MRI that he actually was still completely comprehensive of everything around him and that only the part of his brain that controlled speaking was affected. If you had met him you would think he was totally out of it but he was still all thereexcept for for his ability to communicate. He would still react and laugh and wink his eye and even sing (perfectly and on key) throughout his affliction. As he became more elderly he caught colds more easily and we would have to take him to the hospital for treatment. Each time we checked him in I was immediately asked by the nurses if we wanted them to do anything to treat him. I was stunned! He only had a cold! It was like it was common for people to bring in the elderly and decide through power of medical authority to withhold treatment as simple as antibiotics from them. Blew my mind. Everytime this happened I would say OF COURSE WE WANTED HIM TREATED HE ONLY HAS A COLD!. He was on and off a feeding tube through the last year of his life because of the doctors' fear of him choking on food. Each time my mother would insist on therapy and tests that would prove he could swallow properly and he would be able to again enjoy my mother's home-cooked meals. I think because of his advanced age and the bad luck of having to be in the hospital several times where staph runs rampant, he finally succumbed to the worst staph found in hospitals. My mother and I decided early on that it was up to him and to God to decide when his life would end and that we would always do everything we could to keep him alive. I was with him the night he died and he was totally aware and reacting to me the entire night. Terri's situation is so beyond appalling. People are so ignorant and it is so frustrating and horrific that they can get away with this.
50 posted on 03/18/2005 10:08:14 PM PST by Irishgirl
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To: maine-iac7

come to think of it, didn't this happen easter week last time?


51 posted on 03/18/2005 10:12:36 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

"Hitler killed six million. America has slaughtered 20 - 30 million in the womb."

Well, not to quibble, but in fact Hitler caused the death of about 60 million in a 6-year period.

We've killed 30 million babies in 32 years. Eventually we'll catch up I suppose, if the Lord does not work a miracle.

Evil is evil, but Hitler was WAY ahead of our power curve (so to speak).


52 posted on 03/18/2005 10:14:21 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: billybudd
Here's a question: We don't know exactly what the state of her mind is, but, if you were Terri Schiavo, would you want to live in a half-live, half-dead state where you can observe your hospital room, but not interact in anyway whatsoever with the world? That seems like a hellish nightmare to me.

Suppose the alternative were to be doted over by a couple of loving parents and a warm soft kitty cat (or dog, if you don't like cats), while they helped you receive some therapy to regain some of the skills you'd lost?

To the extent that Terri is miserable, it's because Michael is trying to make her be. There would be no need to "put Terri out of her misery" if we could simply put Michael out of Terri's misery.

53 posted on 03/18/2005 10:14:29 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Irishgirl
"...he caught colds more easily and we would have to take him to the hospital for treatment....I was immediately asked by the nurses if we wanted them to do anything to treat him."

"Um, I'm sorry, I must have misread what it says on the outside of this building! I could have sworn the letters spelled the word 'HOSPITAL' over the door! WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'DO I WANT TO TREAT HIM? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU DO HERE???" (Heeere's your sign....).

54 posted on 03/18/2005 11:04:10 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (Terri's battle is NOT against flesh and blood....)
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To: billybudd

"We don't know exactly what the state of her mind is"

Do you think she should to be taken off food and water for weeks to die even if you are right and no one knows exactly what the state of her mind is? What if she is aware of being starved to death, and what if she is aware that she is thirsty and desperately wants water? Would you want to be in her situation?


55 posted on 03/18/2005 11:05:41 PM PST by AUsome Joy ("In Essentials, Unity; in Non-essentials, Liberty; in All Things, Charity," Augustine)
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To: sionnsar
Terri's Starvation Commences: Terri's "Exit Protocol" Begins

The people responsible for this will burn in hell in the final analysis.

56 posted on 03/18/2005 11:07:05 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Bittersweetmd

Due to his court decision, could judge greer be charged with conspiracy to commit murder?

Maybe if he were to be handcuffed and thrown into a jail cell, and denied any food and water, ............ maybe then he might begin to realize that starving to death would be painful.

Has this eminent (and I use this term loosely, ......... very loosely) judge ever been required to submit to any substance abuse investigation?


57 posted on 03/18/2005 11:10:55 PM PST by Information Friendly (A person who stands for nothing will fall for anything!)
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To: goldstategop
George Greer is a monster as well as a murderer. We won't forget.

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again, The judge and that ba$tard husband should be made to sit by her bed the entire time she agonizes through this. This is simply one of the most barbarous things I've ever seen.

58 posted on 03/18/2005 11:37:23 PM PST by scottywr
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To: BonnieJ

How many of you would stand by and watch someone starve a dog or cat to death and do nothing?


59 posted on 03/18/2005 11:44:53 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: sionnsar

The red comments are absolutely correct. Imagine that they have to mask this "peaceful, painless" process with Valium and Morphine...This is barbaric and the medical hypocrisy is breathtaking! Words fail me.


60 posted on 03/18/2005 11:45:32 PM PST by lainde
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