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To: JesseJane; hedgetrimmer; B4Ranch

This is an excellent post as it clarifies the illegal immigration situation and puts it into perspective.

I disagree with you regarding who kicked this into gear. It is my opinion that George H. Bush started the ball rolling at the end of the first Gulf War. I remember his speeches talking about the One World Order. Before this war GH Bush went to practically every country in the world to get agreements and help for this war. Because so many countries assisted in that war, this was his rationale for the One World Order. He dropped in the polls right after this. He also kept pushing NAFTA in speeches. He tried to deliver NAFTA but failed as the Democrats blocked it.

When Clinton was elected, he pushed NAFTA through with the help of Republicans. I think this is the reason GH Bush and Clinton are so buddy, buddy. There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary is picked as the next President. Whether she will win is another story.

Your links are excellent. Thanks for posting this.

Read this for some background on what is happening.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Spivey/phyllis2.htm


34 posted on 05/12/2005 8:54:14 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: La Enchiladita; HiJinx; gubamyster

This is an interesting post.


35 posted on 05/12/2005 8:57:35 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: texastoo

Thank you so much for your post. I have obviously not done my home work on GHWB. Thank you for taking the time to clue me in. I have not yet, but will, read the link you provided.

Only one thing remains holding Clintons feet to the fire, IMO, and that is the lifting of the 'cap' of illegals that would be "allowed" into the country.. Not legal immigrants, but illegals. When I can put my eyeballs back on the document with the accurate dates and figures, I'll post it. However, if memory serves me half well, in '94 Clinton essentially eliminated the 'cap' of illegals from something like 7500 per year to 65,000. Again, essentially the opening of the floodgate. This was done, as I read it, for votes to slam dunk a 2nd term. Then, taking state legislatures was next.. and indeed, that happened in CA. I'm specifically referring to those supported by MALDEF/LARAZA etc. To ensure BlueState Lock. That's how I developed my opinion about Clinton's complicity in this.

But now, you have given me more facts to absorb. Much appreciated.

Thanks.


36 posted on 05/12/2005 9:19:11 PM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: texastoo

That was an excellent link. Thank you; bookmarked as well.

Check this out: It has numbers I've never seen before.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-5_13_05_FH.html


40 posted on 05/13/2005 8:50:18 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: texastoo; JesseJane
I agree that the Bush-Clinton friendship goes way back. It's nothing new. They carry out each other's policies as well as deciding who will be next President.

Now, as for this article about the Carnegie "study," it's all summed up in the last sentence:

perhaps Mexico and Canada should be exempt from the normal immigration formula

Someone needs to let them know that Mexico already is exempt.

51 posted on 05/13/2005 4:46:12 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: texastoo

bttt


75 posted on 05/15/2005 1:32:27 AM PDT by lainde
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