Condoms are perfectly safe....

2004 | David Lane

[R. Scott]

Did you flunk maths at school?

No, in fact I enjoyed math. I even pulled a 95% in statistical analysis. I am interested in what brand of latex condom failed every test for that 100% failure rate. I would hope that the tests reflected actual usage.
Not that I would doubt anything published by an “institute” that profiles itself as “alternative/holistic/progressive”< /sarcasm>. I wonder if their methodology and math is also “alternative/holistic/progressive”.
You naivete is astounding. It would be a safe bet to say you believe every political speech and TV ad is 100% truth.

[David Lane]

"We do. "

You mean you do. I have received so much mail thanking me for this information, it seems you are in the minority.

May I suggest you could solve your problem with my threads on this topic by simply ignoring them.

An easy solution.

Best wishes,


David

[Dashing Dasher]

I'm concerned that your "facts" aren't "facts".

[David Lane]

BRAND NUMBER TESTED NUMBER LEAKED AS A PERCENTAGE

Contracept Plus 100 100% (EVERY ONE FAILED)

Trojan Naturalube Ribbed 92 22.8% (NEARLY ONE IN FOUR)

Tahiti 78 10.3% (OVER ONE IN 10)

VIRAL LEAKAGE THROUGH SELECTED BRANDS OF CONDOMS

Bruce Voeller, Ph.D, Jerry Nelson, Ph.D., Craig Day, M.S. Mariposa Research Institute - Los Angeles


P.S. The Mariposa Research Institute of Los Angeles had nothing to do with holostic or 'progressive medicine'. That is another Mariposa Institute.

Bruce Voeller, PhD and Jerry Nelson, PhD are highly respected experts in their field.

You see to get everything mixed up.

[David Lane]

I'm concerned that your "facts" aren't "facts" just your opinion.

My facts are based o studies by respected scientists in the field and fully referenced.

[David Lane]

"It would be a safe bet to say you believe every political speech and TV ad is 100% truth."

A friendly word of advice.


STAY AWAY FROM LAS VEGAS.

[David Lane]

MARIPOSA STUDY

AIDS Study to Test Condoms, Spermicides

LOS ANGELES TIMES (LT) - FRIDAY January 16, 1987
Harry Nelson; Times Medical Writer

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In a unique research project, scientists in Los Angeles soon will begin a federally funded human study to see if condoms and spermicides can prevent the spread of the AIDS virus.

Tests have suggested that spermicides can kill the AIDS virus in a laboratory dish, but no tests have ever been done to test their effectiveness in humans.

And despite longstanding recommendations from public health officials that high-risk people use condoms, the ability of condoms to act as a barrier to the passage of the virus has never been thoroughly tested.

Thus the study, funded by a $2.5-million grant from the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development in Bethesda, Md., will be the nation's first in-depth effort to learn whether products in common use by millions of people for contraceptive purposes may help stem the growing number of AIDS cases.

Other investigators in the study are Dr. Robert Nakamura and Dr. Gerald Bernstein of the USC School of Medicine and Dr. Bruce Voeller, president of the Mariposa Education and Research Foundation.


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Holistic, my foot!!!!!!!!!!

[David Lane]

NOTE ON MARIPOSA STUDY


The study did not take into consideration the other major factors resulting in failure: -

1) Shear failure. 2.2% to 3.2%

2). In shelf vulcanization failure. 0% to 100% depending on age, transport and storage conditions.

3). Incorrect use failures. Between 25% and 37% depending on which study you read.


Actual failure rate is the Mariposa transmission failure rate plus the above failure rates plus other factors not outlined above.

[David Lane]

Reference for (2) above: - CONDOM CLIMATE CONTROL Condoms are sensitive to heat and cold, yet they are not normally transported in climate-controlled vehicles. Vesey, in his study ofcondoms,checked 72,000 trucks and has actual photographs of eggs frying in the backs of trucks used for condom distribution. Partly due to Vesey’s study, Burlington County, NJ, banned the distribution of condoms at the county’s AIDS counselling center, because they concluded that the risk of liability for condom failures was too great. (17) 17.Vesey, W.B., HLI Reports, Vol. 9, pp. 1-4, 1991. Reference for (3) above: - Reference for (1) above: - The more elastic condom broke less frequently (3.3 percent), compared to the "extra-strong" condom (4.3 percent), although the difference was not statistically significant. (Abeywickrema; Alvarado; Cordero; Figueroa; Ndumbu; Sidibe) Higher figures than the study I quoted.

[R. Scott]

STAY AWAY FROM LAS VEGAS.

I have never been to Las Vegas, but I did pretty well in Reno and State Line.

[David Lane]

Good for you.

[Dashing Dasher]

Nutcase anti-condom dude... as discussed....

[patton]

Got it.

[Conservative4Life]

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmm

IC Ping? could it be related?