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Big Bang Scam Evolutionists Need To Be Smacked Upside The Head With A Board From Noah's Ark
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 06/15/2005 | JoeClarke

Posted on 06/15/2005 8:02:26 AM PDT by joeclarke

Big Bang - Big Scam, Or Sometimes Evolutionists Need To Be Smacked Upside The Head With A Board From Noah's Ark



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In the Great Debate
that has the Public Fool System fighting any challenge to the Theory Of Evolution, we must remember that many jobs - especially in Universities - would be at risk for the profs and their underlings - who must defend the THEORY, or find a more honest occupation elsewhere. An Intelligent Designer (why not just say God?) advocate on the college campus is scoffed at as a latter day Ptolemy, who believed that the earth was the center of the universe, or as just a plain "flat earther." P.S. Long before Bill Moyers and other Libs acknowledged that Christians were not as erudite as they, Darwin and contemporaries accused faithful Christians as being "flat earthers," and so the lie continues to this day. See The Myth Of The Flat Earth http://id-www.ucsb.edu/fscf/library/RUSSELL/FlatEarth.html

However, with all the loopholes, faults, and guesses which are the foundations of Darwinism and the Big Bang Cosmology, it looks more like the Evolutionary Theory (a cornerstone of Communism) belongs to a snobby crowd of pseudo scientists who are constantly selling the Theory as if it is a Scientific Law. The experiment of Evolution cannot be repeated and has no witnesses, or transitional forms yet proponents are defending ET as if it is something provable, like Ohms Law I=E/R,or Boyle's LawP1*V1=P2*V2, Newton's Second Law F=MA, etc. Giving ET legal status is in part responsible for the Public Ed Law which is PS (Public Schools) = LB (Lagging Behind third world nations in everything from literacy to science). IOW, The advocates of Unintelligent Nondesign are attempting to convince public school students that ET can pass for law, even though it is a mish mosh system of contradictory hypotheses, and therefore, should not be passed off as Scientific Law. Why not call Psychiatry and Social Science theorems - LAW? And, indeed, the soft sciences have been elevated to concrete science: The Law That All Spanking Is Bad, and the Law That Homosexuality Is Genetic are in place, although there is no supporting evidence. We are sending graduates out into the world - and to college - believing that anything they do is LAW, now that THEORY=LAW. BTW, Illegal aliens are given legal rights by the same people.

There are many reasons why the United States is losing ground and Ye Olde Yankee Ingenuity has been lagging in inventions, patents, research, and computer programming. We are wasting so much time in the schools teaching social reengineering and teaching THEORY = LAW,that we are not getting much Big Bang for our Buck investment in the Public Schools. China spends about 300 Dollars per student per year, and the United States spends as much as 10,000 Dollars per student, and the Chinese students are speaking better English.

It does not take much to establish a LAW in science thanks to Evolutionary Theory. As a matter of fact, all you need to get published in cosmological, geological or anthropological journals is to smoke mountains of dope like Carl Sagan, fantasize the most incredible scenario (like we accidentally evolved from stardust over 18 billion years), get a good graphics generator like Paintbrush,and voila, you got a publishable theory which will be called LAW without scientific prerequisites. The Discovery Channel and the NY Times will also be there to publish your new, yet errant, discovery. Journalists are so anxious to print anything that may support the No-God theories, especially if the new discovery adds an extra million years on to the age of anything or anybody. Evolution needs billlllllllllllllllllions of years as Carl Sagan pronounced it in order to accommodate the accidental formation of everything.

The only transitional forms that the pseudo scientists have is faked fossils (http://www.taiwanfm.com.tw/fake/fakep1.htm) such as the "Bird Fossil" made in a suburb of Beijing China which specializes in the clever production of faked fossils. Yes, there are cities around the world which are built around the cottage industries which fabricate fossils for the geologist and anthropologist who is ever so eager to snatch them up and be assured of publishing and a promotion at the university.

Most unscientific in Darwinism are the dating techniques. None are reliable, and all can be in error by several thousand percent. Fossils are dated according to the age of the rocks surrounding them, and rocks are dated by the fossils found in their vicinity. Circular Reasoning. Another faulty standard used by Unintelligent Nondesigners is rock strata which can have "younger" fossils abiding in strata BELOW older fossils. Recently, a non creationist anthropologist found (See http://www.icr.org/pubs/af/pdf/af0506.pdf ) soft tissue and blood cells in the bone of a dinosaur in Montana. A seventy million year old dinosaur with soft tissue? Must be an accident for soft tissue not to break down in 70 Million Years! How about those ancient cave paintings in Chauvet, France which are a reported to be 30,000 years old? Sherwin Williams should sneak into those caves and chemically analyze the drawings for a nice long-lasting house paint product. Radio Carbon, Potassium Argon etc., dating techniques have been proven errant, but that will not stop a tenured professor from using them so as to extend his reputation. There are just too many Evolutionary fakeries, foibles, and fudgings of fact to list here, but for a good primer on the Top Ten Reasons The Earth Is Not That Old, look at the following website at the Institute For Creation Research: http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-384.htm

Unintelligent Nondesign (Evolution) does not even need to be countered by an Intelligent Design curricula in the Public School System. Merely allow the introduction of Some Critical Criticism of the Darwinists theory, and let the Evolutionary cowchips fall where they may.


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1 posted on 06/15/2005 8:02:26 AM PDT by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke

"God did it" is not a valid scientific finding. Now run along back to your religion courses like a good little boy.


2 posted on 06/15/2005 8:05:51 AM PDT by jess35
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To: joeclarke

Hey, Joe. I guess you don't know that the "Big Bang" theory was initially proposed by a Jesuit priest/astronomer. Try again.


3 posted on 06/15/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: jess35

You will get a face to face with the Creator one day, won't be in the flesh that the evo's worship and seek to link. Evolution is very old, I think it is called "we are gods" of OLD time.


4 posted on 06/15/2005 8:08:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: joeclarke
BTW, Illegal aliens are given legal rights by the same people.

Gee, I never realized so many of those people were Republican officeholders...

5 posted on 06/15/2005 8:08:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: jess35
If God didn't do it, who did? These groups are for discussion not simplist, junivelle hits. If you have a better theory, try educating the group so your theory can be reviewed and discussed as well.
6 posted on 06/15/2005 8:10:44 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: joeclarke

Same comment. Creationism makes conservatives look like uneducated cavemen. It is just attacking science without offering an alternative theory(sound familiar?)


7 posted on 06/15/2005 8:11:21 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (The Davis-Bacon Act was the first 'Living Wage Law')
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To: joeclarke

Yawn...

Same old crap. Come back when you have something that hasn't been refuted a million times already.


8 posted on 06/15/2005 8:11:33 AM PDT by TOWER
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To: joeclarke
The randomly scattered bold font, and CAPITALIZATION really sold me. Thanks for clearing this all up.
9 posted on 06/15/2005 8:12:34 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: joeclarke
.....but for a good primer on the Top Ten Reasons The Earth Is Not That Old, look at the following website at the Institute For Creation Research: http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-384.htm

This stuff *still* gets posted????

10 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:18 AM PDT by gdani
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To: joeclarke
"...it looks more like the Evolutionary Theory (a cornerstone of Communism)"

I must have missed that part of the manifesto. Then again it has been a while and most of it's blurry.

Just the hate that is involved in these threads never ceases to amaze me. Right up there with the tax threads and the Hate MS threads ;)
11 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:35 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: joeclarke

Breaking News, eh?

Psychoceramics p[lacemarker.


12 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:54 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger


13 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:54 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: joeclarke

I've haven't seen anyone fit so much creationist BS into a single short article before. Well done!


14 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:57 AM PDT by Youngblood
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To: jess35

The theory of evolution isn't any more valid than God did it so stop being so condescending.


15 posted on 06/15/2005 8:15:28 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: marylandrepub1

Why would you need an alternate theory just because one theory is wrong?


16 posted on 06/15/2005 8:16:36 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: tfecw

You left out the breast-feeding debate threads. They're the best!


17 posted on 06/15/2005 8:17:33 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: joeclarke

I doubt one could feel being hit in the head with a board from Noah's Ark...


18 posted on 06/15/2005 8:18:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Jack of all Trades

I also like the Al Franken diagram (which, considering his resemblance to a chimp actually supports evolution pretty well).

"Is it really this simple?" Yes, boy howdy, when I think of the history of particle physics, cosmology and microbiology since 1905, "simple" is the first word that comes to mind.


19 posted on 06/15/2005 8:18:22 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: jess35

I have not said God did it. I wrote that evolution did not happen. Now go back to your Young Pioneer classes in the Soviet Union. Oh, I almost forgot. . God saved the Russians from you Marxism.


20 posted on 06/15/2005 8:19:54 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke
Yes, there are cities around the world which are built around the cottage industries which fabricate fossils for the geologist and anthropologist who is ever so eager to snatch them up and be assured of publishing and a promotion at the university.
Contribution of Washington D.C. --



Journalopithecus

21 posted on 06/15/2005 8:21:05 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: joeclarke
Your boldfacing of the word "theory" is curioius, and I suspect that you're confusing it with the word "speculation."

As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.

22 posted on 06/15/2005 8:26:12 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Wonder Warthog

Was Hubble a Jesuit? He has also been accredited with fathering the Big Bang Scam. The Jesuit Priest (I am not a Catholic or a fan of Jesuits) called it the Cosmic Egg.

The Jesuit never did expound on where the yolk of his Cosmic Egg originated. The Big Bang Scam does not explain where the material for the BB originated.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 8:27:11 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: dirtboy

Yes, a few are Repubs but the vast majority are libs.


24 posted on 06/15/2005 8:28:01 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: marylandrepub1

The alternative is God. What is so unscientific about that?


25 posted on 06/15/2005 8:29:18 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke

Which God?


26 posted on 06/15/2005 8:30:39 AM PDT by TOWER
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To: marylandrepub1

Speaking of Christians as Neanderthals - Neanderthals were not the clumsy cave dwellers once thought - new computer simulations show they were as nimble-fingered as their human cousins. This is from an atheist website (just to make you comfortable) http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3555


27 posted on 06/15/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke
What a particularly unintelligent rant - high on falsehoods, low on facts. Most strata have now been radiometrically dated, and there is nothing circular about the technique. It's as direct and simple as first order kinetics. And if the US is slipping behind the rest of the world because we teach evolution, it's sort of odd that the rest of the world teaches evolution - in fact, only in the US and in countries with racial islamist movements is there any substantial resistance to teaching evolution at all.

I advise Mr. Clarke to abandon the blog and go back to yelling at people on street corners.

28 posted on 06/15/2005 8:33:50 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: TOWER

You haven't read it all (including links) have you, yawner?

Time to wake up. You're not in public school any more.


29 posted on 06/15/2005 8:35:21 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: Jack of all Trades

The bold and caps are not random. Neither is the formation of the universe.


30 posted on 06/15/2005 8:36:31 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke

A board from the Ark? Poetic.


31 posted on 06/15/2005 8:39:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Some may think I am a methodist)
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To: jess35
"Now run along back to your religion courses like a good little boy..."

Though I agree with that as it stands, there's a nice way and a smart way to deal with differences of opinion: intelligent discourse, or simply avoid the conversation. You did neither.

Personally, I've always thought "Let there be light" could be analogous to the big bang. I mean, the universe does operate by natural laws, not counting any unprovable (but still possible) metaphysical laws. Why couldn't it originate according to what some physicists believe? Couldn't God have made the universe in a big bang manner? Sure, I know, its not in the Bible, but neither are space shuttles, quarks or black holes, and they exist. But it does say "Let there be light..."
32 posted on 06/15/2005 8:40:21 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: eastsider

That's a good one.


33 posted on 06/15/2005 8:41:55 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke
"Was Hubble a Jesuit? He has also been accredited with fathering the Big Bang Scam. The Jesuit Priest (I am not a Catholic or a fan of Jesuits) called it the Cosmic Egg."

No. And Hubble did NOT "father the Big Bang". He merely provided the first scientific observations to verify it.

From Wikipedia:

"In 1927, the Belgian Jesuit priest Georges Lemaître independently derived the Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker equations and proposed, on the basis of the recession of spiral nebulae, that the universe began with the "explosion" of a "primeval atom"—what was later called the Big Bang.

"In 1929, Edwin Hubble provided an observational basis for Lemaître's theory. Hubble proved that the spiral nebulae were galaxies and measured their distances by observing Cepheid variable stars. He discovered that the galaxies are receding in every direction at speeds (relative to the Earth) directly proportional to their distance. This fact is now known as Hubble's law (see Edwin Hubble: Mariner of the Nebulae by Edward Christianson)."

34 posted on 06/15/2005 9:09:33 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: mlc9852; joeclarke

Re: "Why would you need an alternate theory just because one theory is wrong?"

That's what the neo-communists/progressives/democrats +terrorists say about the USA. "Why do we need an alternative way of running things? Our endless set of complaints about how the USA/capitalism is not perfect prove that the USA has to be brought down. The default=alternative is not something we have to defend, just accept it."

Please ! There are 2 Creation stories and 2 Noah's Ark stories in Genesis . Each of the stories contradict the other (in most details) because they were written by different people at different times (J+E). One was written in the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the other in the southern kingdom of Judah, both as competing stories, after the Kingdom split. You can't possibly claim that these stories explain anything about nature.


35 posted on 06/15/2005 10:02:36 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (The Davis-Bacon Act was the first 'Living Wage Law')
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To: joeclarke

YAWN!!!!!!

While you bore me...


36 posted on 06/15/2005 11:06:40 AM PDT by TOWER
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To: marylandrepub1

They are a lot more plausible than evolution! We're descended from apes??? I'm not.


37 posted on 06/15/2005 11:09:47 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Right Wing Professor

I understand the professor rather not endanger his job by allowing for any criticism of evolution. My post states that Intelligent Design need not be taught in the schools. Did your read that professor? Only allow for some criticism, and offer a detailed account of how the Big Bang and its assorted stardust eventually formed human beings. You can offer no detailed explanation.


38 posted on 06/15/2005 11:24:24 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: Youngblood

I don't need billlllllllions of years to say the obvious. The more time needed by ET allows for more fudging.


39 posted on 06/15/2005 11:56:07 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Oh, the Big Bang had a father? Who was he?


40 posted on 06/15/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Creationism in European and Russian schools from http://utopia.duth.gr Translated from Greek
"Russianpopulation does not believe in a religion.
But, in 1991, the Moscow Creation Societyhas been created, their members in
collaboration with the Russian minister of teaching(!) edited a creationist
pamphlet of use in Russian schools. The publications of theInstitute for
Creation Research are largely diffused in universitty faculties.Let us bring
two examples:Bufeev (2004) (the author is of Russian origin but it is difficult
to give an origin to . . . "


41 posted on 06/15/2005 12:02:42 PM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke
"Oh, the Big Bang had a father? Who was he?"

Are you really that stupid, or are you trying to be humorous??

42 posted on 06/15/2005 12:06:01 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: marylandrepub1

Worldwide flood stories predate the kingdom's of Judah and Israel by thousands of years - and, different cultures.


43 posted on 06/15/2005 12:06:24 PM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke

True but that was the first that they were written down, with each author's slant. Much Later they were weaved together in the 'Book's of Moses'.


44 posted on 06/15/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (The Davis-Bacon Act was the first 'Living Wage Law')
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To: joeclarke

What is a law and what is a theory?

A "law" is a readily observable fact about something. It is something that is obvious and undeniable. [Obviously not Evolution]

A "theory" is an advanced hypothesis.

From physicsforums.com


45 posted on 06/15/2005 12:14:01 PM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: joeclarke
You in the original posting: An Intelligent Designer (why not just say God?)

You in Post #20: I have not said God did it. I wrote that evolution did not happen.

You in Post #25: The alternative is God. What is so unscientific about that?

There are some contradictions and inconsistencies in your ideas. Therefore, they can all be discarded. See how that works?

46 posted on 06/15/2005 12:26:53 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: joeclarke

Link doesn't say what you claim it says.


47 posted on 06/15/2005 12:29:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: joeclarke
I understand the professor rather not endanger his job by allowing for any criticism of evolution.

You really don't understand science teaching, do you? Do you think that when we teach mechanics we allow space for alternatives to F=ma?

48 posted on 06/15/2005 12:31:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: All
Fossils are dated according to the age of the rocks surrounding them, and rocks are dated by the fossils found in their vicinity.

Anyone who knows a whit about radiometric dating or other geological dating techniques knows this isn't true, nor is much of anything on this ill-informed, rhetorical post.

Ironic how the author complains about how America is losing ground in science while simultaneously serving as an exemplification of the problem.

49 posted on 06/15/2005 12:51:58 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry

"Festival of Incoherence" placemarker


50 posted on 06/15/2005 4:52:32 PM PDT by longshadow
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