Skip to comments.Beware Phony Credit Collections
Posted on 06/24/2005 7:46:17 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
Agency DetailsShekinah, Inc 7755 Center Avenue, Suite 1000 Huntington Beach, CA 92648 Phone: (714) 475-5460 Fax: (714) 475-5471 Web Address: NONE! Head Debt Collectors: James Arley Trent,45, Owner Devin Molina, CEO (#1 bro in law to Trent) Cecilia Trent, wife, (controls the money) Dana Koprowski, flunkie David Vasquez, VP (#2 bro in-law to Trent) David Brown aka David Noble, gofer Joe Dorsey, fall guy Dan Durbin aka/Daniel Schiele, the liar & con man debt collector! Luis Esteban Vasquez, Attorney, CA Bar#162798 (Rent-A-Lawyer) so they can intimidate you with calls from a "Law Office" A check of records shows Lawyer Vasquez has NEVER filed a debt collection case anywhere. Q. What was Pastor Mike Harris of Cavalry Chapel, Beachside in Huntington Beach, doing recently in Hawaii with Shekinah people??
CONSUMER WARNING! IF SHEKINAH CON MEN CONTACT YOU ABOUT ANY OLD PROVIDIAN VISA CREDIT CARDS DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM. THEY ARE ALL ILLEGAL ACCOUNTS THAT SHEKINAH HAS NO AUTHORITY TO COLLECT.
The term Shekinah is supposed to mean Glory of God These future inmates of the CA Prison System have given it a totally new meaning; THIEVES, LIARS & CONMEN!
Never before has a group of thugs burst onto the debt collection scene with the force and sheer brutality used by those at Shekinah, Inc. of Huntington Beach, CA. This group had us wondering if there had been a California prison break as their utterly out of hand, overly aggressive behavior seemed to indicate desperation on a scale we had not yet encountered.
It took awhile for the pieces to fall together and we expect to have a MAJOR announcement on them soon that may end their collection scam earlier than they expected. Here is what we have found:
These are all rejects from other CA collection outfits. The WORST of the WORST was one description we received on Shekinah collectors. The good news is the police will not have to look far when they arrive to arrest this group of future California prison inmates. Nor will any of these collectors ever have to worry about passing a drug or sobriety test. Everything we receive on them seems to alert us to the fact that this place is a dopers dream and place where happy hour is an all day affair. It appears that management not only condones the use of cocaine and alcohol, they toot up to keep morale high!
So now, we have a large group (40) of losers who are drunk and high who have to make money to keep them happy and guess what they do? They break the law! Not just a few laws ALL the laws!
For example: There is a term used by debt collectors called "Gagging." It is the practice of calling up a debtors credit card company or bank and pretending to be that person in order to get location information, such as home and work phone numbers. This is a highly illegal practice in every state. There are some pros at Shekinah who use it to gain such information, then steal money from unwary consumers.
Another reason why you NEVER divulge banking or credit card information to these thieves.
These are DANGEROUS people because they are under incredible pressure, appear to have drug and drinking problems, cannot get hired anywhere else and owner Jim Trent needs money, lots and lots of money, so he not only condones, but teaches his CONSULTANTS (thats how he skirts CA employment laws) on how to make a living as an extortionist.
We have learned that Trent encourages his employees to invest their own money into the portfolios that are purchased by Shekinah. Several went as far as heavily mortgaging their own homes to invest in this venture. However, some have had regrets and are asking a LOT of questions. Apparently, James is uncomfortable with anybody that questions his honesty or ethics. Too many questions have never been good for him. I guess he knows he can only B.S. somebody for so long, which gives pause to what will happen when the FTC starts looking into his shady business practices.
Shekinah buys as much junk paper as they can, usually with other people's money. They then turn around and resell as much as possible. The paper that hits the collection floor is generally a product or portfolio that they are incapable of selling to another company. This may prove to add more pressure on the collectors, as it is very hard to make a living on this (junk) paper that they are working. In addition, it seems as though desperate times have lead Shekinah to desperate measures. We learned that out of over 40 collectors, only three were able to meet the companys production goals last month. As the production numbers continue to decline, the aggressiveness of its collection efforts will only increase. This may lead to increased drug and alcohol use, which extends into more extortion on the telephone to unsuspecting consumers.
So here is the final analysis if you ever get involved with a debt collector from Shekinah: You may not legally owe the debt. They are likely collecting it illegally with no license or bond. They are incapable of filing lawsuits or taking legal actions. There is nothing they can do to you except harass, lie and extort monies by phone. You may be dealing with a con-man/woman with a drug and alcohol problem that is desperate.
Wow, very sick. An easy prey indeed would be older people. perhaps with memory problems, feeling alone and intimidated.
It reminds me of another scam where they send COD some piece of junk that the newly-deceased spouse supposedly ordered just days before death.... what will the grieving and confused spouse do? Pay the imposter....
Just this week a close relative of mine ( I actually live with this relative and his wife) got a message on his answering machine from a so-called collection agency and law firm, about an old credit card ( PROVIDIAN).
He says he had several years ago and paid off just as soon as he discoverd that the intial very low interest rate was not going to continue. He says he had the card maybe 6 months.
Anyway, he has a great rating. Has a great job and is pretty conservative when it comes to his money. Tight-wad is a good description( HA HA!!)
So he calls the number they left. He was told by a gal on the line that he sounded "HOT and SEXY".... well, then the gal said he owed OVER 4 grand to this "Providian" collection agency/law firm and wanted him to give her a credit card number and pay it off that way.
He told me he told her she was an idiot and a liar and if she ever called again, he would call the police because he KNOWS he does NOT owe that money. He hung up on her as she continued with some "sexy talk".
He called the telephone company and reported the harassing call and called the police and they said they will be calling him for a follow up shortly.
Yes and its even worse when you don't know your rights. You have someone threatening you if you don't do something now and people do stupid things like dig into their 401k or borrow money from relatives to pay what amounts to a conman or conwoman.
Yes these crooks buy junk debt that they don't have any legal standing to collect and then try to scare people into paying. I found out by dealing with them myself and it wasn't till I started doing some research and experiencing it first hand that their threats are empty. A real credit collector that intends to sue you will get a court date and issue you a real subpoena in an attempt to get a real judgment and then will provide you the documentation of that judgment. What goes on with these scumbags is mob collections minus the broken kneecaps.
My relative says he thought Providian went under a few years ago... if, so what happened to the old records???
If you check Bud Hibbs Site http://www.budhibbs.com/ I think there is a mention of the Providian thing. What happens is that companies buy the junk debt and then try to collect on it. They are real lowbrow bottom feeders. Another company that pulls this goes by Goive Law Firms. If you wish to give these guys a taste of their own medicine get a phone card and call them. Also you can give always give them the number of your attorney, your state attorney general. Don't tell them that of course. lol Once you know the true nature of these scum bags if you are careful you can play them a little and though it accomplishes nothing it sure makes one feel good. You can also report them to their local police station and even get them a visit to the address if you report that you believe something suspicious is going on in the office building across the street...You wouldn't be lying, there is something suspicious going on, be creative they are. lmbo They make people's lives hell through their lies and have probably been the indirect cause of suicides over debt that is not legally collectable.
Now, I spoke with my relative and he says the gal said the name of the law offices and she told him... GOV... amking it sound like the GOV as in GOVERNMENT. Which made him even more skeptical of the call.
Now, what has got him really ANGRY, is that he never owned more than a couple of hundred bucks to that Providian outfit... and paid it and closed the account LONG ago. NOW, who has the records and how are they able to call him to try to collect money NOT owed.
This is not just shoddy collection work, THIS is FRAUD!!
Sounds like Giove Law Office to me. They always sound like they are saying Gov law offices. I'd send them some fed-exed dog crap for their trouble. Sorry but these folks are weasles trying to collect debts that are not owed to them, I have little or no appreciation for people who market in fear for personal gain. The best thing people can do is don't pick up the phone. If you do want to have some fun give them forwarding addresses and phone numbers to the attorney general's office or the FTC. They are morons, show them you are smarter than they. Sue them in small claims court. If they want to play hard ball you can play too. Just make sure you play legally. lmbo
Debt secret led to suicide
"A VERDICT of suicide has been passed on the father of two who kept his £65,000 debts from his wife. He had built up the debt on credit cards and loans.
Mark McDonald, 43, kept his financial worries secret from family and friends - and was even seen laughing and joking at work on the day he died." To Read more:
Now they are hounding the widow:
"They are still asking for payments," Mrs McDonald said. We have a little money in my husbands estate, there is the car which will have to be sold, but there is still little left."
I was contacted by these people just yesterday and harrassed me over the phone saying that my ex-husband owes money and that they found my name link to one of his old accounts and that I am liable to pay whatever he owes. I was totally pissed off because the lady over the phone even said that she knows my SS # and that she can file a lawsuit against me. These people are truly sick! It made me sick to my stomach after the phone call. This is why I did a few research about the company and came across of this forum. I called them a few minutes ago and pretended to requests their physical address but the same lady who I spoke to wouldn't give any information which made me think that these people are truly some con artists! I do not understand why they are still in business. Someone has to put an end to these "sick" bastards. Another thing is, I have a caller ID in my house phone and the number registered is 714-475-5332.
They are horrible. Go to www.budhibbs.com and tell him your story. He is collecting information on Shekinah. They will threaten but they will not file a lawsuit because unless you are the joint account holder you can't be held liable. I would bet the account is also unsecured credit and is beyond "legal" collections. The account they have been trying to collect on from me was closed over 7 years ago and is no longer on my credit reports. These types of agencies are about threats; they don't want to waste money paying a lawyer filing suits even if they could legally file suits to collect the junk debt they buy which they can't. They are in business because they are still making money scaring people and the government hasn't shut them down yet. I'm going to start calling them regularly and play with them a little. lol Good luck Lady, just remember these guys are all talk, don't let them scare you, if they were really serious they wouldn't be bothering you with calls they'd get a real court date and get a real judgement.
"I'm going to sue you. Send me the checks. Now!"
"I'm going to sue you. Send me the checks. Now!"
Shekinah is listed on the California Association of Collectors. You might want to send a complaint to them.
Shekinah Corporation Listing:
(PRLEAP.COM) TUSTIN, CA Coreland Companies of Tustin, Calif., one of the largest real estate service companies based in California, announced that its leasing / sales division has recently negotiated additional lease transactions at One Pacific Plaza, a 400,000-square-foot office building located in Huntington Beach, Calif.
As the exclusive leasing agents for One Pacific Plaza, Steven Hogberg and Matt Hammond of Coreland Companies negotiated the following six lease transactions on behalf of the owner, Mullrock 1Beach Pointe, LLC. Coreland also represented some of the tenants.
Shekinah, Inc. signed a five-year lease, two-month lease for 11,121 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $1,483,908. The tenant was also represented by Hammond at Coreland.
Inno Group LLC signed a five-year lease for 3,455 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $444,046. The tenant was represented by Corelands Hogberg.
Stop Loss Insurance signed a three-year, one-month lease for 3,332 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $240,237. The tenant was also represented by Hammond at Coreland.
Brenda Le Mortgage signed a three-year, two-month lease for 2,170 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $152,443. The tenant was represented by Baker Morphy of Trammell Crow Company, Irvine.
Allied Electronics signed a four-year lease for 1,950 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $193,577. The tenant was represented by Linda Barden of CB Richard Ellis, Newport Beach.
Broughton Hospitality Group signed a five-year lease, three-month lease for 1,829 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $232,374. The tenant was also represented by Hogberg at Coreland.
West Coast Commercial Mortgage signed a five-year lease for 1,442 square feet for a total consideration of approximately $173,040. The tenant was also represented by Hogberg at Coreland.
One Pacific Plaza is located at 7755 and 7777 Center Avenue in Huntington Beach, adjacent to the new one million-square-foot Bella Terra Retail Center that is near completion. We continue to ride a wave of positive leasing activity spilling over from the fourth quarter into 2005, and this activity further confirms the increasing desirability of West Orange County office property. says Corelands Leasing / Sales Division Vice President Steven Hogberg. Further, we have signed a lease, pending C.U.P approvals, on our other two full floor availabilities.
All the new tenants have recently taken possession of their space.
Coreland Companies is a full-service commercial real estate company with expertise in retail, office and industrial properties. Coreland Companies is one of the largest privately held commercial real estate service companies based in California. Coreland Companies is based in Tustin with offices throughout California. For more information, visit www.coreland.com.
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Our corporate office is located on the fifth floor at 7755 Center Ave, Huntington Beach, CA, within the One Pacific Plaza complex. This is a limited access building requiring card entry after normal business hours. The suite is accessible only through the reception area, which is staffed during hours of operation. During non-business hours, the suite is monitored via an electronic security system in combination with a series of passkey requirements.
7755 Center Ave., Suite1000
Huntington Beach, CA 92647
We are located by the I-405, approximately eight miles north of John Wayne/Orange County Airport (SNA) and 35 miles south of Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).
From San Diego area/John Wayne Airport
Driving north on I-405, take the Beach Boulevard Exit toward Huntington Beach. On Beach Boulevard, drive under the freeway overpass and turn right on Center Avenue. Turn right at One Pacific Plaza and park in the "Visitor Section" of the structure on the right.
From Los Angeles area/Los Angeles International Airport
Driving south on I-405, take the Beach Boulevard Exit toward Huntington Beach. Stay in the right lane of the off-ramp and turn right on Center Avenue. Turn right at One Pacific Plaza and park in the "Visitor Section" of the structure on the right.
You may have received a letter from Luis Esteban Vasquez:
Here is his profile at the State Bar of CA:
Dana Koprowski speaks:
"We've heard an array of different stories. It's a joke," said Dana Koprowski, vice president of Shekinah Inc. in Huntington Beach, Calif."
I would have to agree Shekinah is a joke and hopefully soon they will go the way of Edward M. Lopes and his debt-collection agency, LV Financial.
I received this from California Association of Collectors, Inc. when I sent them an email compliant against Shekinah, Inc.
"Dear Mr. Newbrough,
I am in reciept of your complaint. Please send me your address and I will send you a complaint form in the mail.
Once I recieve it I will notify you by letter on what I did with it. As members of our association they will respond to you within 30 days.
California Association of Collectors, Inc.
1455 Response Rd. #240
PO Box 254490
Sacramento, CA 95865-4490
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