Posted on 06/30/2005 9:09:45 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
"It's the degree and rapidity of his seeming reversals that disappoints me."
I appreciate your response. And I appreciate your integrity and truthfulness.
So you believe both Billy and Franklin are liars, then?
(Hint.............that's your only choice).
Look at it this way: Two of the most evil people in American politics - Bill and Hillary Clinton were brought up on stage by Graham and honored. Bill and Hillary have worked hard to maintain abortion on demand, gay marriage, and many other things considered anti Christian. Not only that, Bill used women like tissue paper and threw them away, and if they caused problems for him they were threatened with their lives - I remember the one girl Bill raped was so terrified she fled the country. And Graham said of this, "Bill is such a handsome man the women fall at his feet." I heard him. A true minister of the gospel would have been bold like John the Baptist was, and tell Clinton that what he was doing with these women was against God's law. But no, Graham made light of Clinton's adultery before the world.
If Graham wants to promote someone why didn't he pick some godly missionary who has given his life to spread the gospel? One who would never bend his knee before the abortionists and women's groups that promote every evil under the sun? They could stand some promotion couldn't they? But no, dedicated missionaries are not usually Democrats. The party sickeneds them to the depths of their souls. And for good reason.
Is Franklin a liar? I'd say he is sick at heart seeing his father give substance and credence to two people who hate Christians. Remember when Clinton said as much when he was President? "I hate Christians." If you want more I can give it to you.
I'll take you back to the statement I was referencing. (Everything else you said about the evil of the Clintons is well known, and irrelevant to my point).
Franklin said that his, AND his father's politics were different from the Clintons.
If you say they aren't, then you are calling Franklin a liar.........not heartsick............a liar.
Do you think that he is?
You look at these religious shows on cable TV. The black churches are jumping and singing and praising God. Yet when it come to politics they are 95% liberal Democrat. In many black churches they welcome politicians who promote abortion, give them communion and tell their people to vote for the Democrats against the evil Republicans - who are for the most part against these evils.
When Graham made his statement on Clinton's good looks and how he couldn't help these women falling all over him, Clinton was in real trouble at the time. He was close to being impeached in the House, and close to losing the presidency. I think Graham made that statement to help circumvent the Republicans action against Clinton's because Clinton had lied to the courts.
The very ministers who would never preach that abortion and gay marriage is right are the same ministers who love the Democrat party because it was the party of Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton. Graham was a poor boy who went through the Depression, and looks at Roosevelt, no doubt, as the one who saved the country.
Now I don't care if Graham is a Democrat. However, you have never addressed why would he bring this slimy couple up at his very last appearance and honor them and show the world that he loves and respects them? Actions and words speak volumes.
Franklin can do his damage control, however what his father did can never be denied. And typically Democrat when Graham puts his foot in his mouth, he immediately says - like Dean and Durbin, "Oh, I misspoke. I didn't mean what I said." "The press got it all wrong. You didn't understand that I was only joking. "
There is nothing funny about the Clintons and the eight hellish years they were in the presidency. Many people were hurt and ruined by them. This country has suffered damage that will never be corrected. I am not laughing. So, I ask again, where was the humble servants of God - why weren't they honored in place of the Clintons? You can't answer that, can you? Because as I said, you have already proven my point by saying Clinton's sins are irrelevant. No, they are not.
You said that Billy Graham's politics were the same as Bill Clinton's.
Franklin says that Billy Graham's politics are NOT the same as Bill Clinton's.
One of you is wrong.
I pick you.
All your ranting about what you think Franklin meant is meaningless because it goes against what he said.
I am on point here, and you are not.
I don't like that the xlinton's were on stage with Billy. You and I are in total accord about them. My only point to you is that by doubting that Billy's politics are different from the Clinton's, you are insinuating that his son, Franklin hasn't told the truth.
THAT IS MY ONLY POINT.
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