[doug from upland]

I will respectfully disagree about bin Laden. I think he is religious, perverted as his religious wing is. He really does believe his duty is to covert or kill for Allah.

[loreldan]

"I think he is religious, perverted as his religious wing is. He really does believe his duty is to covert or kill for Allah."

You may be right. However, his theology is a direct descendant of Wahabism. Wahabism is promoted and led by the royal family of Saudi Arabia and their allies. I don't think anybody believes the royal family, in general, actually believe in the religion they promote. Have you seen the pictures of various princes and family members at the beach or in clubs or bars? They promote that sect to cement their political power, yet when they leave the country their true secular selves appear. The 9/11 bin Laden followers met at strip clubs, drank, etc. Yes, on the surface bin Laden appears religious, but when he's not in front of the cameras?