[Texas_Conservative2]

Either God created life and the universe... or there is no God, It's that simple.

I believe in a God who created life which has the ability to evolve in order to adapt to it's environment.

But to argue that all life, and the universe itself is some sort of cosmic accident... is to deny that there is a God.

If i'm wrong .... i'll embrace the darkness when I die... If i'm right .... i'll embrace the savior.

[general_re]

If i'm wrong .... i'll embrace the darkness when I die... If i'm right .... i'll embrace the savior.

If you're very wrong, you'll be punished eternally for worshipping a false god. Try a little game theory with that premise ;)

[ml1954]

If i'm wrong .... i'll embrace the darkness when I die... If i'm right .... i'll embrace the savior.

How about this....I don't know and when I die I may find out. Or do you have to have an answer now?

[RightWhale]

Either God created life and the universe... or there is no God,

That's the choices? No third alternative, no fourth, fifth, etc.? I will grant as given that God created great whales, but some of the other things He let the earth bring forth and the waters, too. Some of the other things He let be, which is not the same as creating. It's kind of an active/passive thing. He let light be, but he made whales.

[King Prout]

awww, naw... not Pascal's Wager AGAIN?

That uses an artificially simplified Given set.
As a result, its set of consequences is far from comprehensive.

lemme see if I can find that old elaboration of that silly Wager...

dammit... it's buried DEEP.

I'll have to find it (or recreate it in full) one of these days.

here's a precis:

Pascal's Given
1. God IS
2. God IS NOT
A. I believe
B. I don't believe
Pascal's Consequences
1A. I go to Heaven
1B. I go to Hell
2A. I'm in error, but no harm
2B. I'm in error, but no benefit

Sounds fine, until you realize there's more than one godstory out there

Revised Given
1. God Exists
2. Bog Exists
3. Nyarlathotep Exists
4. Shiva exists
...
...
...
(infinity-n). The Great Pumpkin exists
A. I believe in Deity #1, and none of the other deities either exist or -if they do- mind all that much
B. (as above, for D2)
C. (as above, for D3)
...
...
...
(Z-inf-n). (as above, for the Great Pumpkin)
A'. I believe in D1, but D2098675 really IS, and he' gets riled easily
(etc...)

don't even ask me to make the consequence set for you: you either get the point now, or nothing I could say further will aid you in finding it.

[Dimensio]

If i'm wrong .... i'll embrace the darkness when I die... If i'm right .... i'll embrace the savior.

What if you're simply wrong in the choice of your God, and the God that really exists doesn't have a problem with non-believers so much as he/she/it has a problem with followers of false gods?

[trisham]

Either God created life and the universe... or there is no God, It's that simple. I believe in a God who created life which has the ability to evolve in order to adapt to it's environment.

But to argue that all life, and the universe itself is some sort of cosmic accident... is to deny that there is a God.

If i'm wrong .... i'll embrace the darkness when I die... If i'm right .... i'll embrace the savior.

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This is fairly close to what my beliefs are at the moment.