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To: vrwc0915
I have found most of the information available on this site to be worth saving.
20 posted on 09/01/2005 9:19:46 AM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: styky

thanks for the link will check out later


21 posted on 09/01/2005 9:22:41 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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I went to that link, and then the firearms stuff. Useful, but of course, I do take issue with his handgun advice to women.

He says that "most women like the smooth-sided James Bond automatics....etc.." That is what the thug who kills them will think too...when he owns it. He also recommends the .38 Chief.

Autos are prone to jams, ammo and magazine sensitive, need good lubrication, and can malfunction if held weakly. In 9mm JHP, they are also shallow penetrators in less than 147 grain bullets, and if they do penetrate, may only leave a narrow wound channel = you get killed by a wounded attacker. In the militry, handguns are meant to back up a long arm, not replace it, James Bond style.

Revolvers work, but are bulky. Such is life, if one wants to keep it. .38s are less efficient than a good 9mm in similar bullet weights, because of the auto's closed breech sealing in the combustion chamber better, but my main disagreement is limiting ones's self to Specials, and under re-supply pressure, not being able to even chamber .357 magnum. Once self-defense or game-getting shooting has been experienced by anyone, male or female, the reality of the instrument sets in, and one would prefer to actually get the job done than be comfortable while shooting a pretty and quiet gun, and missing, or wounding. Therefore, a .357 in a short barrel, and preferrably a 4" barrel, if USING it. A .38 in a 2" is anemic, but better out of a 4". Pretty doesn't work. What WORKS works.

I use automatics for utility and defense. I know what to expect. I also expect that ammo resupply will be easier for the 9mm these days. That only makes it an expedient, not a personal favorite. There is a reason so many are choosing +P for their 9's. 124gr. JHP is like a .38 light bullet....marginal, and if it plugs up, ball, which may exit, but make a narrow hole. Bad. I use "Winchester OSM" standard velocity 147gr. JHP, and am quite pleased. My handguns are also not wearing out, and I do not flinch in expectation. It also retains more power at longer ranges...but alas, the "gun scribes" have already done their self-serving handiwork, as have certain "stopping power" journalists, and Americans are in harm's way without even realizing it. You will not fix your 9mm by making an expanding bullet go faster, only make a bigger hole, less deeply...which could be rather self-endangering in a serious event.

Ahhh. Gun Thread. It's what's for breakfast.


33 posted on 09/01/2005 10:06:45 AM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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