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DUmmies unable to read a CALENDAR!
Dummies of America
Posted on 09/27/2005 1:03:31 PM PDT by WBL 1952
One of NUMEROUS posts today at DUmmies of America!
Get the word out. Today Michael Brown lied through his teeth when he told the Katrina hearing that Blanco NEGLECTED to include NOLA and adjacent parishes in the disaster relief request. And then, Rep Stephen Buyer R-IN, repeated it. Boldface Lie ! Here is the proof
..UNCOVERED BY BRILLIANT DU'ers!!! BRAVO....
WHAT BLANCO ASKED FOR: SHE INCLUDED ALL PARISHES http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pd...
WHAT BUSH ISSUED
HE LEFT OUT NOLA AND ADJACENTS Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana
The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.
The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn.
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KEYWORDS: blanco; brown; katrina; perjury
The Blanco statement DU keeps quoting was dated, cough cough, August 28, 2005 while the Bush statement was dated, cough cough, August 26, 2005; two days EARLIER.
I think Governor Blanco has some explaining to do about the two day discrepancy!
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:03:33 PM PDT
by
WBL 1952
To: WBL 1952
What use is a calendar when the sunrise comes as a daily surprise?
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:06:19 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Aren't the "reality-based community" folks the same ones who insist there is no objective reality?)
To: WBL 1952
Cathy! You got some splainin to do.
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:07:04 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: WBL 1952
UNCOVERED BY BRILLIANT DU'ers!!!We're the brilliant DU'ers confronted with the minor detail of the screwed up dates?
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:10:16 PM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
To: WBL 1952
gov.louisiana.gov also seems to be a phony website. You cannot get to that site if you do web searches for Louisiana.
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:29:24 PM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
To: frogjerk
BRILLIANT!
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:33:02 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Flower Mound, TX)
To: WBL 1952
I am sure her hooves will be held to the fire on this. The GOP sucks IMHO. I can't believe they had that fraud, William Jefferson on their panel. They let this POS prattle on, lie and accuse Brown of things that were not the job of FEMA. This fraud should have been called out as an example of government corruption and waste because of his little trip home.
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posted on
09/27/2005 2:01:59 PM PDT
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: WBL 1952
The whole mess is dated. Just go read the hurricane Katrina hurricane thread. It all happened in real time.
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posted on
09/27/2005 2:13:07 PM PDT
by
Revel
To: WBL 1952
The Blanco statement DU keeps quoting was dated, cough cough, August 28, 2005 while the Bush statement was dated, cough cough, August 26, 2005; two days EARLIER. I think Governor Blanco has some explaining to do about the two day discrepancy!
Actually, I don't know if the DUmmies are quoting the wrong document on this particular issue, but from looking at all the documents available at both the White House and Louisiana governor's website, it looks like the DUmmies premise may be correct.
Much of the confusion on this issue arises over the fact that there were two different declarations requested and accepted (first for a federal emergency declaration and later for a federal disaster declaration). Also, both Blanco and Bush issued their emergency declaration documents on one date but made them effective the previous day.
Here's what I have found:
--On August 27, Blanco asked for a federal emergency declaration, commencing on August 26. In that request, she writes "I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina."
--On that same day of August 27, President Bush responded to that request by declaring a federal emergency, commencing on August 26. In his response, he says the Feds will provide assistance "to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn."
Here's the problem: Looking at a map of Louisiana, none of those parishes is in the southeastern part of the state where the hurricane was going to hit, and where Blanco asked for the emergency declaration. It doesn't include Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, St. Tammany, etc. I have no idea why that is, but that's what the two documents say.
FYI, the disaster declaration was requested by Blanco on August 28. President Bush responded on August 29 by making the declaration. I think you have mixed the two separate requests together--Blanco's August 28 disaster request with Bush's August 27 (effective August 26) emergency request.
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posted on
09/27/2005 2:31:45 PM PDT
by
drjimmy
To: drjimmy
"Here's the problem: Looking at a map of Louisiana, none of those parishes is in the southeastern part of the state where the hurricane was going to hit, and where Blanco asked for the emergency declaration. It doesn't include Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, St. Tammany, etc. I have no idea why that is, but that's what the two documents say."
I covered this with someone else before. The reason that the southern parishes were excluded was because this was a positioning order. This was an order to have equipment and personnel in place to move in immediately after the hurricane. One does not place those valuable assets in the direct path of a hurricane; instead, they are moved away. Remember, at the time of the order, it was still believed that Katrina would make a direct hit on Louisana, and specifically New Orleans, at Category 5 strength. It would have been foolish to place rescue assets in the direct path of the hurricane. So, instead, they were ordered to brace for impact inland, and then be as close as safety permitted to move to the coast as quickly as possible.
In the event, of course, the hurricane took a late turn to the east and hit Mississippi instead, but no one really held that to be the path at the time the order was issued.
To: drjimmy
"I think you have mixed the two separate requests together"
Thanks for setting the record strait.
To: WBL 1952
"I think Governor Blanco has some explaining to do about the two day discrepancy!"
She doesn't have time for that now, she's busy looking for those 500 cops on the payroll that never existed.
To: drjimmy
Someone seems to lack reading comprehension for their own sources:
(Sorry, I don't know how to properly do links here)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4944296#4945106
The August 27 declaration was, in Bush's own words intended, "to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard...."
It excluded Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, St. Tammany, etc., and it wasn't about naming the parishes where relief was to be positioned. But, as usual, freepers can't read.
Perhaps, Friday's Child, you should more carefully read that screen shot that you have posted from the White House page:
"Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding."
Sorry, Friday's Child, but this is exactly what I said it was: a mobilization order to have FEMA staff and equipment at the ready for after the hurricane hit.
Yet again, * is not toast, and there are no legs. No matter how many ways you try to slice it, this was a state and local matter, and the governor and the mayor blew it bigtime.
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
To: Adam Wood
I covered this with someone else before. The reason that the southern parishes were excluded was because this was a positioning order. This was an order to have equipment and personnel in place to move in immediately after the hurricane. One does not place those valuable assets in the direct path of a hurricane; instead, they are moved away.
That's utterly ridiculous. It was a request for an emergency declaration for a specific area, and it was granted for an entirely different area. Did FEMA position assets in all those other parishes in advance of the hurricane, in accordance with your interpretation of the declaration? No. Here is how the presidential declaration begins: "The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina." It then goes on to leave out the parishes the governor said were in the path of the hurricane. Big boo-boo.
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posted on
10/01/2005 4:01:32 PM PDT
by
drjimmy
To: WBL 1952
Well, since they could never accept that fact the Christ lived and died for our sins, how can you expect them to understand a calendar based on his death (or close to it, isn't it three years off?)
Funny how instead of BC, it's now BCE, before common era. If it was based on Mohammad's death, now that would be a different story, then we'd be celebrating diversity.
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posted on
10/02/2005 12:50:50 PM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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