Try to name more than five Dem congressmen north of the Mason Dixon line that are more conservative than Murtha. The guy has been a hawkish type in general. I am not sure he laid out his case as to why the US should "cut its losses" in Iraq. Did he? The problem is, as time goes on, whether or not US troops are just the thin green line between a Shia and Sunni all out civil war. How much of it is about killing terrorists going after the US, and how much of it, is Sunnis going after Shias? At some point, if that is the case, the Shias will have to carry most of the load themselves. Bush's time is running out, and the Shias need to understand that. I don't have the heart however to abandon the Kurds ever. But that is just me.
Why? His voting record is pretty clear,his votes on foreign policy and defense and more liberal than two thirds of his peers. Geography has nothing to do with it. He votes as a liberal despite his portrayal as a hawk.
The guy has been a hawkish type in general.
No he hasn't, the guy was a staunch Dean supporter. He voted for war in Iraq but has been a critic ever since.
The terms "hawk" doesn't describe Murtha at all. He's entitled to his opinion, he's earned that in spades but he's not entitled to the bs opinion that you can't favor the war if you aren't a veteran and he deserves scorn for this pull out immediately crap because he is a Vietnam Vet.
Screw him.