[editor-surveyor]

" This will give people a pretty good idea how well "intelligent design" stacks up against "evolution" as valid science."

That has to be one of the most disingenuous statements I've ever seen posted on FR.

First, you have touted two coniving greedy grant-grabbing, tax dollar sucking clubs that have in reality produced very little when viewed in terms of function, rather than psycho-masturbational dreaming.

Second, if they have made such advances in cancer treatment, then why have cancer deaths gone fron one in ten at the end of WW II to one in four at present? You are propagating the Big Lie.

[caerbannog]

Second, if they have made such advances in cancer treatment, then why have cancer deaths gone fron one in ten at the end of WW II to one in four at present? You are propagating the Big Lie.

People are living a lot longer, you dumb****! Because fewer people are dying of heart disease, infectious diseases (such as tuberculosis), etc... more folks are reaching the very old ages where cancer becomes more prevalent.

And *age-adjusted* cancer rates for most types of cancer have *fallen* since WWII. Age-adjusted death rates for breast, prostate and colon cancer have fallen sharply in the past ten years. (But I'm probably wasting my time here -- you don't appear smart enough to figure out what "age-adjusted" means).

[Elsie]

Now look!

You've caused him to get REAL upset!!