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To: tgambill
Exactly....revising it to the truth and not the lies that were initially told.

Just like David Irving. Keep up the good work, Tom.

When you say "the article is correct", you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little confused, as the article is demonstrably incorrect, per Colonel Obrenovic's statement. Do you intend to merely ignore any evidence that doesn't fit into your game plan? Seems to be your plan, so let's see how your take on the mass graves stacks up with reality.

You state:

The act of excavating, transporting and reburying 7,000 bodies was beyond the capabilies of the defunked Serbian army at that time. Surveillance would also have detected the movement.

The problem here is that not only has forensic evidence proved conclusively that bodies were moved, some of those tasked with moving the bodies have admitted their part in the plan:

From September through October 1995 the Bratunac Brigade, working with the civilian authorities, exhumed the mass grave at Glogova and other mass graves of Muslim victims of the murder operation, and reburied them in individual mass graves throughout the greater Srebrenica area. In September 1995 I was contacted by Colonel Popovic, the Drina Corps Chief of Security, and told to conduct a reburial of the Muslim bodies at Glogova. I coordinated the effort to exhume and re-bury Muslim bodies from mid-September to October 1995. This was done in coordination with the Bratunac Brigade Military Police, civilian police, and elements of the 5th Engineering Battalion of the Drina Corps. I reported on a Bratunac Brigade Commandmeeting in October 1995 to the assembled Command including Colonel Blagojevic that we were tasked with conducting the reburial operation of the Muslim bodies for the VRS Main staff.

Source: Statement of Facts and Acceptance of Responsibility, Momir Nikolic.

Further, in 2004 the Bosnian Serb government itself finally broke down and threw off the idiotic charade it was maintaining in regards to Srebrenica and disclosed the location of 32 further Srebrenica related mass graves which had thus far escaped detection.

So what are you bringing to the discussion, huh Tom? Nothing but BS, that's what. Not only are you pushing lies about the mass graves, you're still pushing outdated identification numbers, as the 2,000th Srebrenica victim was identified through the work the ICMP is doing in Bosnia in 2005.

Lastly, there were initially 15,000 reported missing from Srebrenica, over the course of the last decade, the missing list has been whittled down until now it stands at ~7,800. The voters to which you refer are not on the current list. The Bosnian Serbs reported they had over 6,000 prisoners after Srebrenica fell, and almost to a man, those prisoners were executed.

Your ignorance on the matter is embarrassing Tom. Do yourself a favor and stick to lying about Kosovo.

19 posted on 02/18/2006 1:11:57 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: tgambill
Your ignorance on the matter is embarrassing Tom. Do yourself a favor and stick to lying about Kosovo.

You must be hitting very close to the truth, you've got Hoopie raving.

22 posted on 02/18/2006 8:10:31 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Hoplite; ma bell; Wraith; joan; jb6; montyspython; FormerLib; zagor-te-nej

I'm going to give you as a source, the correct report in detail. I don't have the time to paraphrase or give you more than than you deserve.

http://www.srebrenica-report.com/defense.htm

Most of the info and links you provided were the fabrications and coverups in order to support our intervention into the Balkans. The idea is to inject truth. You have only provided the lies and the exaggerations that were well crafted.

"The voters to which you refer are not on the current list"

Yes, the voters 3,010 were on the current list. The OSCE was not forthcoming with the list, so you are lying as you don't know. You are not special enough to have seen the entire list since the OSCE would not provide it.


39 posted on 02/19/2006 9:55:02 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite

Oh, just in case you get tired of reading, and being embarrassed at being caught lying again, here is couple of paragraphs.....

http://www.srebrenica-report.com/politics.htm


"With 8,000 executed and thousands killed in the fighting there should have been huge grave sites and satellite evidence of both executions, burials, and any body removals. But the body searches in the Srebrenica vicinity were painfully disappointing, with only some two thousand bodies found in searches through 1999, including bodies killed in action and possibly Serb bodies, some pre-dating July 1995. The sparseness of these findings led to claims of body removal and reburial, but this was singularly unconvincing as the Bosnian Serbs were under intense military pressure after July 1995. This was the period when NATO was bombing Serb positions and Croat/Muslim armies were driving towards Banja Luka. The BSA was on the defensive and was extremely short of equipment and resources, including gasoline. To have mounted an operation of the magnitude required to exhume, transport and rebury thousands of corpses would have been far beyond the BSA’s capacity at that time. Furthermore, in carrying out such a program they could hardly hope to escape observation from OSCE personnel, local civilians, and satellite observations."

There were witnesses to killings at Srebrenica, or those who claimed to be witnesses. There were not many of these, and some had a political axe to grind or were otherwise not credible, [46] but several were believable and were probably telling of real and ugly events. But we are talking here of evidence of hundreds of executions, not 8,000 or anything close to it. The only direct participant witness claim that ran to a thousand was that of Drazen Erdemovic, an ethnic Croat associated with a mercenary group of killers whose members were paid 12 kilos of gold for their Bosnian service (according to Erdemovic himself) and ended up working in the Congo on behalf of French intelligence. His testimony was accepted despite its vagueness and inconsistencies, lack of corroboration, and his suffering from mental problems sufficient to disqualify him from trial--but not from testifying before the Tribunal, free of cross-examination. within two weeks of this disqualification from trial. This and other witness evidence suffered from serious abuse of the plea-bargaining process whereby witnesses could receive mitigating sentences if they cooperated sufficiently with the prosecution. [47]



It is also noteworthy how many relatively impartial observers in or near Srebrenica in July 1995 didn’t see any evidence of massacres, including the members of the Dutch forces present in the “safe area” and people like Henry Wieland, the chief UN investigator into alleged human rights abuses, who could find no eyewitnesses to atrocities after five days of interviewing among the 20,000 Srebrenica survivors gathered at the Tuzla airport refugee camp. [48]



40 posted on 02/19/2006 10:50:34 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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