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To: Antoninus
It only flows logically from the position that any act should be legal as long as no one is physically hurt.

Perhaps, but that position has nothing to do with libertarianism. I can steal your property without "physically hurting" you.

Please. It is a gigantic moral issue and becoming a bigger one. You say that the government should be able to punish adults who have sex with children. But I ask again--who has the right to determine who is or is not a child according to the law? Who sets the line, if not the government?

You are valiantly trying to manufacture a controversy where none exists. Of course the government should set the line.

By claiming this isn't 'a gigantic moral issue' you're just attempting to use sophistry to get around the fact that you believe that the government should decide some moral issues, but not others.

Of course I believe that. Who doesn't? Do you believe government should decide *every* moral issue? Government should become involved when there is actual harm to actual victims. As children cannot meaningfully consent to sex with adults, any such acts inherently harm them.

14 posted on 03/01/2006 1:51:53 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: ThinkDifferent
Perhaps, but that position has nothing to do with libertarianism.

Have you ever actually spoken to any libertarians? It's one of their defining "principles."

Of course the government should set the line.

Glad to hear it.

Of course I believe that. Who doesn't?

Oh, only about 80% of the libertarians I've ever debated. Some might even call you the Taliban for suggesting that the government should impose and enforce any moral law. Usually, they run from the debate screaming when someone brings up AoC laws. I commend you for at least having the stones to take on the topic.

Do you believe government should decide *every* moral issue?

Of course not. I'm asking for consistency here. Government, particularly on the state and local levels, has the right to legislate and enforce moral laws that are in keeping with the prevailing morality of the people who elected them and which do not violate Natural Law. That's my position. That's not the position of 95% of libertarians.
15 posted on 03/01/2006 2:03:11 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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