Without reading it all, the thesis seems to be that the exit polls were wrong, and particularly wrong in GOP strongholds. The "explanation" is that 375,000 in Ohio were illegally prevented from voting, most all Dems. The odd little thing is that in a state with a stagnant population, 900,000 more voters voted in Ohio in 2004 than did in 2000, with the Dems getting a majority of the increase. The Dems even got more votes in GOP strongholds than in 2000. I guess there is always more water in the well - always more. The cup runnuth over. An alternative explanation is that what happened is that the GOP got out the vote massively more in GOP areas than the Dems got, because there were more relatively indiffenent Pubbies to energize, and team Bush out their base in a frantic attempt to win the White House, in a state that both parties knew was the key swing state in the election.
I report, you decide.
With each generation, the Kennedy clan just seems to get keep getter dumber and dumber, and risks overshooting the mean. That is another possible hypothesis.
You might enjoy all this. Ohio Pubbies clearly will do anything to win.
I admit it. I stole the election. I have it buried in my back yard.
Did DemocRATS Steal the 1960 Election? John F. Kennedy
Lil' Bobby oughta go back to the drugs.
Democrats howl when their attempts to cheat don't pay off.
When you bus voters from precinct to precinct and even out of state then you don't have a right to cry because they got provisional ballots..
You wanna talk vote fraud?
Go to St. Louis.
Go to Milwaukee.
Go to Seattle.
(It's not as if RFK Jr. is an unbiased, objective reporter or anything, is it?)
Sheesh.
What we also tend to ignore is that people will report (in exit polls) what they believe that the pollster wants to hear.
I am convinced that many more African-Americans vote conservative than are willing to admit.
And there is no particular reason that elderly jews in Florida wouldn't vote for Pat Buchanan (given his staunch and unwavering support for Israel).
Another typical case of Liberal racism when it suits their purposes...
I meant to add that I checked the CNN election site for 2004, and the exit poll showed women split evenly, and Bush carried men by 5%. That translates into the 2% margin Bush actually obtained. Curious. One oddity of the exit poll is that Bush got 16% of the black vote. What is up with that? Obviously the sample of black voters was too small, so that aspect is wrong. In fact, the whole exit poll was reverse engineered to reflect the actual result. That is why the final exit poll reflects the actual results. Karl Rove is a very clever man. Just ask Walter Cronkite. What was right, and reflects the real truth, were the early numbers of the exit poll that were reported during the course of the day, that Kennedy with his connections obtained, and has on his spread sheet.
Yes but I hope we are better at it next time and they don't suspect.
If I had been able to vote, the margin would have been higher. Of course I ran into a barricade outside my polling place as I raced from the bar to vote at 2:45 A.M.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641895/posts?page=87#87
Well, I want a recount and investigation of the 1960 election since you are complaining about the 2004 election.
PS: This self righteous, sniveling whine brought to us by the Original Party of Corruption, the Democrats.
Obviously the solution is to abandon voting altogether, and simply decide elections via exit polls. You and your neighbors will file into the local school gym on election day, and mill about for a bit. Perhaps we could have coffee and donuts on hand, but in any case, after about twenty minutes or so of that, you'll be allowed to leave, either individually or in small groups. Whereupon you'll be polled at the egress about your choice for various offices. Simple, no?
Republicans tended to run ads on Radio and TV and hope that their voters came out to vote.
2004 was an eye opener for me. First Democrats rarely get many volunteers... Unions volunteer union staff. and they had best volunteer. However the Bush campaign in 2004 had thousands and thousands of volunteers who worked weekends canvasing for votes and working the final 72 hour get out the vote effort.
I can tell you that the Bush effort in Ohio in 2004 was based on getting out the base. The reason was for the first time in memory the so called swing voters had decided to vote and had decided for whom they were going to vote very early in the campaign. Less than 7 percent of the swing voters were still up for grabs in September of 2004.
That left the base and the Democrats who were members of the Religious right as the only potential Bush voters up for grabs. The Bush grass roots effort had people from the same precinct calling potential Bush Voters... to get them registered and get them to the polls. That was unheard of for Republicans in Ohio. It was SOP for Democrats. Except the Democrats had to hire people. Bush had true volunteers. And they were motivated volunteers. The Bush volunteeres were mostly middle class and they were skilled and motivated to get out the vote.
Rove had determined that 70 percent of church members would vote for bush. So huge efforts were made to get church members as volunteers. Those church member volunteers were used to to call all the members of their congregations and ask them to register and vote. There was no attempt to get them to vote for Bush.. Just to register and vote. Rove knew that Bush would get 7 out of every 10 of those votes.
There was a huge effort to canvas Republican precincts. This was done by local people, calling on local people and urging them to vote.
For the first time in my lifetime Republicans had a real grass roots effort. They had a very well organized and effective final 72 hour push to get out the votes for Bush. Volunteers were calling pro Bush people all election day.. to make sure they had voted.
It was an entirely new ball game. For the first time in history in ohio, at least since 1932, that the Republicans out hussled the Democrats.
Some Democrats do not yet understand what defeated them. They put out an effort that should have, in historical terms, given Kerry a nice Ohio victory. But their effort was not enough and Bush's greater effort won the election. Some Demorats are still in denial.
Waiting for RFK Jr.'s detailed, thorough analysis of Philadelphia's 108% registered-voter turnout, which went overwhelmingly to the Demoncrats.