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The REAL Black Dahlia
www.blackdahlia.info ^ | 8-14-06 | Houmatt

Posted on 08/14/2006 7:03:03 AM PDT by Houmatt

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To: Badray; Houmatt
Dittoes (message #20) from me Houmatt.

I have not seen the movie - the reviews so far are pretty horrid. I enjoyed the "fictionalized novel" by Ellroy but them again I am a noir film fan and it's right up my alley.

Does Hollyweird get away with lies and propaganda? Of course..and that is the nature of the beast so to speak. However, in the case of this poor young woman I would like to know more. I am planning possibly to use it (film and Ellroy) in a film course I teach. Any info would be appreciated.
21 posted on 09/20/2006 2:27:54 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Badray
You assume way too much. Most people have never heard of her by name, won't remember her by name if they even see the movie, and won't care.

Then perhaps you could explain since you seem to know more than I do why even after 60 years discussion of the subject has not gone away. In fact, as the film was released, two television programs broadcast segments about her, and New Line Cinema bought the rights to Black Dahlia Avenger.

Bette's death, and the nature of it, has inspired directly or indirectly many different works, from books, movies, music, television to even art.

The simple fact of the matter is you are assuming people don't care. However, in knowing far more about the case and its impact than you ever could, you should know better than to tell me whether or not you think people will care. That in and of itself is a display of ignorance on your part.

What is your interest in her?

That's none of your damn business.

22 posted on 09/21/2006 5:59:47 AM PDT by Houmatt (Wanted For Treason: John McCain, Lindsay Graham, John Warner)
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To: eleni121

Then what you need to do is click on the links provided in post #19. They should tell you whatever you need to know.


23 posted on 09/21/2006 6:01:13 AM PDT by Houmatt (Wanted For Treason: John McCain, Lindsay Graham, John Warner)
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To: Houmatt

I guess you are right. 3 days and 25 posts dramatize the incredible interest in this case.

If there weren't a movie right now, 95% of the people probably couldn't tell you what the story was about and 99% wouldn't know her name. People will go to see a badly made movie about anything so don't even pretend that people really care or want to know anything more about her.

Again, it was a horrible crime. If it's personal, I'm sorry for your loss, but do you have to be so snippy just because I don't think it's the most pressing issue of the day.


24 posted on 09/21/2006 11:38:16 AM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Badray

Ooops. Correction -- 25 posts in 37 days.


25 posted on 09/21/2006 11:39:20 AM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Houmatt

I don't plan on seeing the movie. I find this case interesting and have seen several documentaries on it, incl. the one covering Hodel's son's accusations that his father was the killer (the documentary puts that theory away, although there are some intersting coincidences).

One notable thing about Short that no one is mentioning, and which may have been part of what caused her death, is that she was a hermaphrodite. Although pretty and flirtatious, and although she dated...she was unable to have sex. In fact, she was not quite 100% female. It's possible that some nut got her alone, where she flirted as usual, but when he decided he wanted more, he was quite surprised to find out what was under her skirt. Few people knew about such things back then, so it's easy (for me, anyway) to see some nutcase go berzerk.

Still, she had a sad life that ended horribly (and I guess painfully). I can't answer exactly why this case holds my interest, like it does for so many others. But it does. Maybe because the crime was so unnecessarily brutal and intentionally humiliating, and she was, it seemed, a genuinely nice gal just trying to make it on her own.


26 posted on 09/21/2006 3:13:40 PM PDT by TexasBud
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One notable thing about Short that no one is mentioning, and which may have been part of what caused her death, is that she was a hermaphrodite. Although pretty and flirtatious, and although she dated...she was unable to have sex. In fact, she was not quite 100% female.

This is, in fact, a myth. Those who have taken the time to locate and read Bette's autopsy report have revealed she was neither a hermaphrodite, nor pregnant.

Please go to the websites I linked to in post #19 so you can get the facts.

27 posted on 09/22/2006 12:56:30 PM PDT by Houmatt (Wanted For Treason: John McCain, Lindsay Graham, John Warner)
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