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To: Gabz

What is the connection with "materialism" and AFA? I just don't get your point.

How else are people going to affect the "broader culture" except by withholding money? Should they attack with M-16s and bayonets instead? Or - God forbid - LEGISLATION?

AFA largely is against legislation. They work to change businesses to protect society by boycotting; they've never suggested even "pass a law" to get their way.

So frankly, I don't know what the complaint is about org's that try to change things in passive ways, neither by violence nor by communistic gov-force.

And believe me, these boycotts have worked. Southern Baptist Convention has also joined in boycotts and it's been very effective, at least as far as revenues for the companies in question.


117 posted on 11/10/2006 11:14:49 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; scripter
What is the connection with "materialism" and AFA? I just don't get your point.

How else are people going to affect the "broader culture" except by withholding money? Should they attack with M-16s and bayonets instead? Or - God forbid - LEGISLATION?

My point in regard to materialism is the fact that AFA is promoting a 2 day boycott of shopping at WalMart Thanksgiving weekend. They are not promotoing the idea of the Christmas season, just the idea of putting your consumption dollars in the pockets of companies they feel are more "family value oriented" than WalMart.

My position is, and has been, that AFA should be promoting family values, not consumerism in their effort to "punish" one company. To me, a better means of promoting the alleged goal of AFA would be a call to boycott all Thanksgiving weekend shopping and instead promote family activities that do not involve consumerism or materialistic ideas.

AFA largely is against legislation. They work to change businesses to protect society by boycotting; they've never suggested even "pass a law" to get their way.

That may be so, but they are not above seeking judicial means of getting their way....and in the case I'm thinking of, they did exactly what I have been saying they are doing with this idiotic attack on WalMart in regard to this one homosexual organization.:::

In 1989 a rap group named 2 Live Crew released a CD called “As Nasty as they Wanna Be.” The CD was not well received and sold very poorly. The CD and the group were on the fast track to obscurity. 2 Live Crew

One day in 1990 a group called AFA in Florida discovered one of the rap songs on the disc and was so outraged by the vulgar lyrics, they persuaded a judge to prosecute store owners who sold the CD with obscenity crimes. The disc, which probably never would have even covered production costs became an instant success and went on to sell 2 million copies. The controversy made the band members rich, famous and introduced the music of 2 Live Crew to American teenagers nationwide who wanted to hear what all the “controversy” was about.

AFA is doing it again.....they are doing more promotion of this homosexual organization than the organization is doing for itself.

That supporters of AFA refuse to see that their PR campaigns do more harm than good to the cause of promoting family values is not my problem.

128 posted on 11/10/2006 2:06:22 PM PST by Gabz
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