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Iranian Alert - November 10, 2006 - Iran looks to Close Strait of Hormuz
Regime Change Iran ^ | 11/10/06 | freedom44

Posted on 11/11/2006 11:02:22 AM PST by freedom44


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Persian Journal

The editor of Kayhan Newspaper, Hussein Shariatmadari, hasrecently said: "if Iran is put under the UN sanctions, the 5+1 states [i.e. the USA, the UK, France, China, Russia and Germany] would be the biggest losers from economic and political points of view." He has added: "closing the Strait of Hurmoz can be one of the retaliatory reactions [of Iran]... . if we are made subject to the sanctions, then naturally we can use some leverages, such as closing the Strait of Hormuz. Closing the Strait of Hormuz will seriously stop the flow of oil to the industrial states and they will face intolerable conditions. Of course, there are numerous other leverages that will be discussed later." (1)

The Strait of Hormuz is the narrow sea passage that connects the Persian Gulf to the Oman Sea. This is the only sea-passage for the export of oil from the Persian Gulf states. The Iranian forces have done several maneuvers aimed at closing the Strait of Hormuz at the time of crisis and the Western forces in the region (in cooperation with the some of the littoral countries or independently) have conducted several maneuvers aimed at deterring such plans.

The threat to close the Strait of Hormuz (2) has been mentioned time and again by many other figures in Iran (3). The officials of the Islamic Republic of Iran have threatened that if the United Nations Organization adopts serious sanctions against the regime of Iran (due to the nuclear case of Iran which is currently in the Security Council of the UNO), they may resort to the "oil weapon".

It should be noted that any action by Iran to stop the oil flow from the Persian Gulf countries, by blocking the strait Hurmoz, attacking the shipping lines, trying to blow up the pipelines or the production and refinery facilities of the other countries in the region (such as Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan in the Caspian Sea, or Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Bahrain in the Persian Gulf), will be considered as a serious violation of the international laws and regulations for the concerned states. It would be in practice like giving a declaration of war to them. At the same time, it would be a serious challenge to the interests of the major oil importing states, especially the USA, that according to the Carter Doctrine considers the Persian Gulf as an area of vital interests. The US government feels obliged to stop any serious challenge to its vital interest, by all means, including the military actions.

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1 posted on 11/11/2006 11:02:23 AM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Closing the Strait of Hormuz will seriously stop the flow of oil to the industrial states and they will face intolerable conditions

Japan and Europe would not be pleased. Does Iran really want some seriously annoyed Japanese headed their way?

2 posted on 11/11/2006 11:05:18 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: freedom44

U.S. naval armada set to sail into Gulf to 'intimidate' Iran

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, November 10, 2006

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Navy has gathered aircraft carriers and troop transports for entry in the central Gulf. Included, officials said, were at least 10 warships that would arrive in the region over the next few days.

"The reason is to intimidate the Iranians," an official said. "There are two crises: Iraq. The second is Iranian efforts to recruit Iraq and Gulf Arab states in an alliance."

The Bush administration was described as alarmed by the Gulf states' interest in an alliance with Iran. Officials said Iran pledged to end the incitement of the large Shi'ite communities in Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states if the alliance was concluded.

Officials said Iran may have been behind the destruction of a Kuwait refinery over the weekend, Middle East Newsline reported. They said the reports that the refinery was demolished by an "accident" was incorrect.

"There are assets being gathered in the Indian Ocean off the coast of India and Pakistan as well as assets moving toward the Gulf from the Red Sea," an official said.

Officials said the navy was ordered to begin the redeployment in the Gulf in Oct. 1. They said the first assets to sail toward the region were cruisers and minesweepers.

The navy maneuvers were said to have been initiated and ordered by the White House. A source close to the administration said Vice President Richard Cheney has warned against the massive maneuvers.

Officials said Pentagon analysts warned of Iranian retaliation. The analysts stressed that the U.S. military lacks sufficient high-value, particularly nuclear, targets in Iran.

On Nov. 5, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Gen. Yahya Safavi ruled out a U.S. strike against Iran. Safavi told Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam television that the U.S. military deployment was already under strain throughout the region.

"Under the current circumstances, Americans are involved in Afghanistan and the quagmire of Iraq so we do not anticipate any military attack from America,'' Safavi said. "But Iran has its own defense and deterrent power and it is very unlikely that America will cause us any problems.''


3 posted on 11/11/2006 11:05:18 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: freedom44

That's the kind of thing which sparks a world war.


4 posted on 11/11/2006 11:10:21 AM PST by thecabal ("Now die monkeys and stop saying Muslims are terrorists,we are peaceful people!")
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To: thecabal

Well, that wouldn't bother the Mooslims much, they thrive on chaos, maiming, murder and death in general. But the Libs love 'em, they think they're "neat".

I think we need to test some missiles on the black box.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 11:14:56 AM PST by brushcop (Men of B-Co 2/69 3ID, do you now feel betrayed after all your efforts & sacrifices in Iraq?)
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To: freedom44

Iran knows it's strengths and weaknesses well. They have designs on a Caliphate - they want to unite the entire peninsula and north africa into an Islamic security group of likeminded nations and cooperative economy.


6 posted on 11/11/2006 11:16:53 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: RightWhale

That's right. It's Europe and pacific rim Aisian countries that will be greatly P.O.ed, as that's where most of that oil goes anyways.

Let them close it down, it's just the excuse needed to level Tehran. Not that the Demonrats would have the guts.


7 posted on 11/11/2006 11:19:19 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: shrinkermd
"Under the current circumstances, Americans are involved in Afghanistan and the quagmire of Iraq so we do not anticipate any military attack from America,'' Safavi said. "But Iran has its own defense and deterrent power and it is very unlikely that America will cause us any problems.''

What a fool and those who wanted to over-deploy in Iraq. The military knows it must hold enough in reserve to fight just such a threat as this.

8 posted on 11/11/2006 11:20:15 AM PST by Socratic
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To: freedom44

I'm so glad we are not and will not use our oil so we can remain under blackmail by terrorists.
Makes perfect sense to me.


9 posted on 11/11/2006 11:20:16 AM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: rjp2005

Lots of people want lots of things. Unfortunately for the Iranian Caliph of oil and sand, nobody is particuarly interested in letting Iran be involved in Iraq, Saudi, Egypt, Turkey, Libya, or anyplace else including Afghanistan. The Strait will be re-opened and Bush or Pelosi or Hillary! or whoever is Pres then will do it.


10 posted on 11/11/2006 11:23:25 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The Ds have quite a history when it comes to war. If it is their watch they will open the Strait by whatever means will do it RIGHT NOW.


11 posted on 11/11/2006 11:25:20 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Socratic

Excellent point.
However if Bush had sent two or three times the troops like they now complain then they would have complained that that was wrong for not keeping a reserve.
It doesn't matter what he does it is wrong.
If he succeeds he is a bully and a loser and incompetent. If he does what they want and loses he is a loser and incompetent.
But now watch the anti American media support all the losing proposals the rats come up with. Even when they lose it will be fine because they are in power.


12 posted on 11/11/2006 11:26:27 AM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: freedom44
Closing the straits would give casus belli. Good.
13 posted on 11/11/2006 11:38:34 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: shrinkermd
"..The navy maneuvers were said to have been initiated and ordered by the White House. A source close to the administration said Vice President Richard Cheney has warned against the massive maneuvers."

I hope Bush blockades Iran sooner rather than later ...before the RATS take over both Houses of Congress in January '07

Iraq will run out of the cash to fund the terrorists in Syria, Iraq, and every where else real fast if we: "..seize their oil platforms, destroy their shipping, and impose an absolute blockade on Iranian shipping in the Gulf -- while eliminating their ability to damage anybody else's shipping ..."

An excerpt of some advice - given by a Democrat, no less - that fell on deaf ears before last week's election: [snip] Click HERE to read it.

14 posted on 11/11/2006 11:42:48 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: freedom44
Qom isn't a very large city...

The following is a list of Grand Ayatollahs and the most senior ranking Ayatollahs in or directly related to Qom.


15 posted on 11/11/2006 11:45:08 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: agere_contra

Picking a fight with the U.S. in the Strait would be picking the wrong fight. Iran's forces would be decimated in short order, and their humiliation would stand for all the world to see. I'd look for major acts of terrorism instead of closing of the strait.


16 posted on 11/11/2006 11:56:19 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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17 posted on 11/11/2006 12:05:24 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: freedom44

It is good we sent ships there. We can't let them think we are weak, or Bush is weak now. Dems better at least TRY to act like adults... Bush should remind them that there very well may be a Dem in the WH in '08, and he/she would be blamed for whatever problems exist.


18 posted on 11/11/2006 12:05:50 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: freedom44
closing the Strait of Hurmoz

If Iran does that, time to dust off the B-2's, the FAE and daisy cutter bombs, the bunker busters, and perhaps the tactical nukes,

19 posted on 11/11/2006 12:10:32 PM PST by Edit35
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To: freedom44

The world triple dares you, Iran.


20 posted on 11/11/2006 12:15:21 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: RightWhale

Closing the strait is an act of war. Let's roll!


21 posted on 11/11/2006 12:22:59 PM PST by RoadTest ( He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -Rev. 3:6)
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To: holdonnow; SJackson; sono; RasterMaster; Tony Snow; eeevil conservative; HonestConservative; ...

ping


22 posted on 11/11/2006 12:41:11 PM PST by AliVeritas (In Victory, Be magnanimous, in Defeat, Defiant!)
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To: freedom44
if we are made subject to the sanctions, then naturally we can use some leverages, such as closing the Strait of Hormuz. Closing the Strait of Hormuz will seriously stop the flow of oil to the industrial states and they will face intolerable conditions. Of course, there are numerous other leverages that will be discussed later."

It boggles the mind to accept as real this level of stupidity from a spokesman for a real State.

The Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman are international waters. Any attempt to close the Straights of Homuz would be a) very short lived; b) Likely to trigger the destruction of all cities and towns along that portion of Iran, permanently.

Hard to imagine that all the oil-producing countries that use the gulfs daily, and the countries transporting the oil would allow Iran even one week's worth of disruption...

What are these nutballs smoking?

23 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:03 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: freedom44
He has added: "closing the Strait of Hurmoz can be one of the retaliatory reactions [of Iran]... . if we are made subject to the sanctions..."

Do it..don't just talk. Hehehe.

24 posted on 11/11/2006 12:49:52 PM PST by Earthdweller
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To: freedom44
For a start, let's remember who made these comments, the editor of a newspaper.

Secondly, like North Korea, threats and overblown reactionary comments are two a penny and have to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Iran is capable of doing a lot of damage in the Strait in the short term, but they know that any action like that would trigger a war, and if they wanted a war that badly they would have started it already.

Iran wants to continue to develop their nukes, and they will use threats and diplomacy to buy the time they need to develop them.

25 posted on 11/11/2006 12:54:35 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: rjp2005

After which, the allied countries will descend back into savagry and scratchy toilet paper.

When our backs are to the wall, we will find a way to keep up our standard of living. It might take a little while but Americans perform best when under fire.

I am so losing interest in anything that comes from the mouths of crazy ME people.

I feel sorry for the country of Israel, but in reality, their citizens are a whole lot more united behind their government than people in this country are.

1-2 years in the military for every young adult in this country wouldn't hurt them a bit. I have always admired the Israelis for insisting that each person participate in the defense of their country, even if only in a support capacity and not in a fighting capacity.


26 posted on 11/11/2006 1:32:50 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: snarks_when_bored

# Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

This is the Supreme Leader He's not a Grand Ayatollah he's a mid-ranking cleric.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 2:18:02 PM PST by freedom44
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To: rjp2005
Iran knows it's strengths and weaknesses well. They have designs on a Caliphate - they want to unite the entire peninsula and north africa into an Islamic security group of likeminded nations and cooperative economy.

It's not quite that simple. Caliphates were always Sunni, Iran has always gone their own way as Shia Muslims. Shiites are only 10% of Islamic world and are at enternal loggerheads with the Sunni majority, particularly the Saudi Wahabbi strain of Sunnis who have the most money and influence. Study a little of the history of Islam, there's no way the Saudis would accept any Shia concept of a Caliphate.

28 posted on 11/11/2006 2:46:25 PM PST by xJones
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To: xJones
"there's no way the Saudis would accept any Shia concept of a Caliphate."

Iran doesn't care - they will launch a war against the Saudis before the end of the decade.

Iran's current borders cross invisibly into Basra and right into northeast Saud by their infiltrated Shia population. They have been seeding those areas for a while and are probably trying to arm them as we speak. Rumors are they were involved in the Kuwait explosion. The Iranian Shiite Crescent is extending it's reach.

This is why the President recently increased our naval presence in the area. I have read Islamic history. This is the first time in their history, except for a brief Persian period, that they are in position to control the Muslim world that has been dominated by Sunnis for centuries.

Three years tops - Iran will make their move.

29 posted on 11/11/2006 3:01:39 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: freedom44

Nine world navies said NO in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War. And that was during the Cold War.

The Straits will close when hell freezes over.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 3:57:18 PM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: sully777

31 posted on 11/11/2006 4:06:47 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: RightWhale

they will face intolerable conditions""

Iran is headed for self- imolation, IMO.

I still say that "head of state" is the leader of the group that took the Americans hostage that were held for 444 days until Reagan got them loose.


32 posted on 11/11/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

It could be classified as a tragedy in progress if it were theater. That is, it is classical comedy now, but if it plays out as it appears it will be classical tragedy. Venezuela appears to be comedy beginning to end.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 4:26:33 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Jet Jaguar

34 posted on 11/11/2006 4:38:31 PM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: rjp2005
Three years tops - Iran will make their move.

I see your point, and you state it well. The House of Saud is weak, and Shia Iran is run by fanatics of the most dangerous sort.

35 posted on 11/11/2006 5:13:18 PM PST by xJones
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To: freedom44

I do not share most everyone's assessment that taking out Iran's regime will be a cake walk…it ignores Russia's significant military transfers allowed by one seriously criminal politician…here's HIS Inconvenient Truth


http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/102300Senate.pdf


36 posted on 11/13/2006 3:11:09 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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