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Rudy Giuliani: Impose Handgun Licensing on FL, GA, VA, NC, and SC
www.rudysreallyliberal.com/ ^ | 1997, and other dates | NY Times and Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 03/16/2007 3:18:22 PM PDT by TitansAFC

When Congress, at the request of many police officials, considered a broad ban on handgun bullets capable of piercing bulletproof vests, Mr. Giuliani – though personally supportive of the measure – pointed out flaws in the bill and laid out the [Reagan] Administration’s case for a weaker alternative more acceptable to gun lobbyists.

But he angered some [Reagan] Administrative officials when he added a single sentence to his testimony in which he urged Congress to pass the bill. A similar measure was passed several years later, after gun groups softened their opposition.

New York Times, October 11, 1989 (Emphasis Added)

In fact, the Mayor has been a strong proponent of gun control since his days as a Federal prosecutor, and early in his term, after the Brooklyn Bridge shootings in February of 1994, he proposed that guns be subject to the same licensing requirements as driving a car. He revived the issue last month after the Empire State Building shootings, effectively making a national policy issue out of a local incident.

Assuming that he eventually approves the use of hollow point bullets, as seems likely, he will have some insulation from charges that he is in any way gun-happy. With gun control overwhelmingly popular in the city as a whole, it is an issue that can’t miss, a political “no-brainer.”

“Whatever a New Yorker’s philosophical orientation, liberal, conservative, left or right, they have to share a small space,” said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser. “At that close proximity, guns are evil, and you don’t need a pollster to tell you that.”

The Mayor praised the proposals made Wednesday by President Clinton to keep guns out of the hands of non-citizens by imposing a residency requirement. But he said the idea doesn’t go far enough, and urged that owning a handgun be subject to the same scrutiny as operating a car: applicants should pass a written and a physical test, should be subject to a waiting period and a background check, and should be required to have liability insurance.

He acknowledged that this would require states to set up large bureaucracies – which he jokingly hoped would operate more efficiently than the Department of Motor Vehicles – but said the cost would be more than offset by the reductions in crime.

New York Times, March 7, 1997 (Emphasis Added)

In repeating his call for a national gun licensing law yesterday, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani introduced an unusual kind of “southern strategy” to his re-election platform: Blame five southern states if the city’s crime rate doesn’t continue its steep descent.

As he related it at a breakfast meeting of the Citizens Crime Commission yesterday, his thinking goes like this:

The city’s crime reductions cannot continue much further, he said, especially if guns continue to flow freely into New York from elsewhere in the country, where gun laws are more lax. The five southern states that account for 60 percent of the guns in the city are Florida, Georgia, Virginia, and North and South Carolina, he said, and if Congress would only impose handgun licensing on those states and the rest of the country, New York’s crime rate would plummet even further.

New York Times, March 7, 1997 (Emphasis Added)

Mr. Giuliani has long advocated national gun regulations, including background checks and waiting periods for gun purchases, and a ban on assault weapons. He has not changed, according to Ms. Mindel [a Giuliani spokesperson].

New York Times, November 14, 2005 (Emphasis Added)


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---"The five southern states that account for 60 percent of the guns in the city are Florida, Georgia, Virginia, and North and South Carolina, he said, and if Congress would only impose handgun licensing on those states and the rest of the country, New York’s crime rate would plummet even further."---
1 posted on 03/16/2007 3:18:26 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

You already have to have a license to get a handgun in NC (I know, because I live here).

Fortunately, it's a painless 5 dollar ordeal at the sherrif's office. I got mine...and am still waiting for the chance to use it.


2 posted on 03/16/2007 3:22:00 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: TitansAFC

I hope he doesn't win the nomination. The only place I want gun control is Iraq.


3 posted on 03/16/2007 3:22:11 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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To: TitansAFC

I wonder if Rudy knows just how large the NC Militia is.


4 posted on 03/16/2007 3:22:24 PM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? ImAplement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: pcottraux

But you have to promise the local sheriff that you know how to use it, and you know when "terrorist season" starts and ends!


5 posted on 03/16/2007 3:23:45 PM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? ImAplement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: TitansAFC

Not to mention Rudy's attacks on gun makers and distributors .


6 posted on 03/16/2007 3:23:58 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (LIBERALS : -- ROMNEY DEFEATS THEM -- RUDY EMBRACES THEM !)
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To: pcottraux

Although you must get a license to PURCHASE a handgun, if you move here from elsewhere you don't have to REGISTER it.


7 posted on 03/16/2007 3:25:03 PM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? ImAplement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: TitansAFC

Rudy is a fascist DEMOCRAT.


8 posted on 03/16/2007 3:25:10 PM PDT by LibKill (Rudy QUEER-SUCKING Ghouliani is loved by democrats and RINOS!)
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah yeah, we all know you just posted this article against Rudy because you hate gay people. (sarcasm intended)


9 posted on 03/16/2007 3:25:21 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The anti-libertarian)
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To: TitansAFC
Rudy, a liberal? But, but, but, I have assurances from many here that he is the only one who can save us from Hildabeast. Have I been mis-informed? major sarc
10 posted on 03/16/2007 3:25:41 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: TitansAFC; All
I SEE YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IDIOT CONSERVATIVE WHO RAN AGAINST RUDY GIULIANI IN THE NY POST And his website he has up - Probably to attract people like you.

RUDY TARGET OF WEB SLINGER

March 16, 2007 -- A conservative who once ran against Rudy Giuliani in New York is trying to puncture his national rise, with a dossier and a Web site that call him a "lifelong liberal."

"I think it is time that conservatives around the country begin to know the real Giuliani," said George Marlin, the former Port Authority head who ran on the Conservative Party line when Giuliani captured City Hall in 1993, describing his new Web site www.rudysreallyliberal.com.

11 posted on 03/16/2007 3:26:19 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: TitansAFC
I like this part:

said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser.

12 posted on 03/16/2007 3:26:25 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: TitansAFC

Rudy doesn't realize that the 2nd amendment is for EVERY state in the country.

I see no exceptions in the 2nd Amendment.


13 posted on 03/16/2007 3:28:30 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: TitansAFC

I just love the name of the wesite this appears on. Go get'em.


14 posted on 03/16/2007 3:28:51 PM PDT by stockpirate (To learn about John Kerry, FBI files and the VVAW read my about me page on FR.)
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To: TitansAFC
"We're going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest ...
So then we'll have to start working again to strengthen the law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice.
Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time ....
The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of guns being produced and sold in this country.
The second problem is to get handguns registered.
And the final problem is to make the possession of *all* handguns and *all* handgun ammunition -- except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal."
-- Pete Shields, Chairman Emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc. ( "The New Yorker", July 26, 1976 )
15 posted on 03/16/2007 3:28:56 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: TitansAFC

Well, none of my weapons have made their way to New York.

Once I get 'um I keep 'um. Drives the wife nuts. "What another one?" "No, Honey, this one's for the kid."


16 posted on 03/16/2007 3:30:40 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: TitansAFC

Giuliani is NO friend of the US Constitution. You just can't pick and choose which sections you like and which you don't. He won't get the vote of those of us who cherish the 10 original Articles of the BOR's.


17 posted on 03/16/2007 3:30:55 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: garv
"I like this part:"

"said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser."

Exactly! I seem to recall recently that someone here saying there was NO LIBERAL PARTY!

18 posted on 03/16/2007 3:31:01 PM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? ImAplement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: TitansAFC
The five southern states that account for 60 percent of the guns in the city are Florida, Georgia, Virginia, and North and South Carolina, he said, and if Congress would only impose handgun licensing on those states and the rest of the country, New York’s crime rate would plummet even further.

See, Rudy, the reason these are called "other states" is because they're not *your* state. Which means you don't have a say in their internal policy-making.

19 posted on 03/16/2007 3:31:10 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The anti-libertarian)
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To: TitansAFC
Animals can be driven crazy by placing too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself.

LAZARUS LONG
20 posted on 03/16/2007 3:32:09 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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