Posted on 03/16/2007 3:18:22 PM PDT by TitansAFC
When Congress, at the request of many police officials, considered a broad ban on handgun bullets capable of piercing bulletproof vests, Mr. Giuliani – though personally supportive of the measure – pointed out flaws in the bill and laid out the [Reagan] Administration’s case for a weaker alternative more acceptable to gun lobbyists.
But he angered some [Reagan] Administrative officials when he added a single sentence to his testimony in which he urged Congress to pass the bill. A similar measure was passed several years later, after gun groups softened their opposition.
New York Times, October 11, 1989 (Emphasis Added)
In fact, the Mayor has been a strong proponent of gun control since his days as a Federal prosecutor, and early in his term, after the Brooklyn Bridge shootings in February of 1994, he proposed that guns be subject to the same licensing requirements as driving a car. He revived the issue last month after the Empire State Building shootings, effectively making a national policy issue out of a local incident.
Assuming that he eventually approves the use of hollow point bullets, as seems likely, he will have some insulation from charges that he is in any way gun-happy. With gun control overwhelmingly popular in the city as a whole, it is an issue that can’t miss, a political “no-brainer.”
“Whatever a New Yorker’s philosophical orientation, liberal, conservative, left or right, they have to share a small space,” said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser. “At that close proximity, guns are evil, and you don’t need a pollster to tell you that.”
The Mayor praised the proposals made Wednesday by President Clinton to keep guns out of the hands of non-citizens by imposing a residency requirement. But he said the idea doesn’t go far enough, and urged that owning a handgun be subject to the same scrutiny as operating a car: applicants should pass a written and a physical test, should be subject to a waiting period and a background check, and should be required to have liability insurance.
He acknowledged that this would require states to set up large bureaucracies – which he jokingly hoped would operate more efficiently than the Department of Motor Vehicles – but said the cost would be more than offset by the reductions in crime.
New York Times, March 7, 1997 (Emphasis Added)
In repeating his call for a national gun licensing law yesterday, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani introduced an unusual kind of “southern strategy” to his re-election platform: Blame five southern states if the city’s crime rate doesn’t continue its steep descent.
As he related it at a breakfast meeting of the Citizens Crime Commission yesterday, his thinking goes like this:
The city’s crime reductions cannot continue much further, he said, especially if guns continue to flow freely into New York from elsewhere in the country, where gun laws are more lax. The five southern states that account for 60 percent of the guns in the city are Florida, Georgia, Virginia, and North and South Carolina, he said, and if Congress would only impose handgun licensing on those states and the rest of the country, New York’s crime rate would plummet even further.
New York Times, March 7, 1997 (Emphasis Added)
Mr. Giuliani has long advocated national gun regulations, including background checks and waiting periods for gun purchases, and a ban on assault weapons. He has not changed, according to Ms. Mindel [a Giuliani spokesperson].
New York Times, November 14, 2005 (Emphasis Added)
You already have to have a license to get a handgun in NC (I know, because I live here).
Fortunately, it's a painless 5 dollar ordeal at the sherrif's office. I got mine...and am still waiting for the chance to use it.
I hope he doesn't win the nomination. The only place I want gun control is Iraq.
I wonder if Rudy knows just how large the NC Militia is.
But you have to promise the local sheriff that you know how to use it, and you know when "terrorist season" starts and ends!
Not to mention Rudy's attacks on gun makers and distributors .
Although you must get a license to PURCHASE a handgun, if you move here from elsewhere you don't have to REGISTER it.
Rudy is a fascist DEMOCRAT.
Yeah yeah, we all know you just posted this article against Rudy because you hate gay people. (sarcasm intended)
March 16, 2007 -- A conservative who once ran against Rudy Giuliani in New York is trying to puncture his national rise, with a dossier and a Web site that call him a "lifelong liberal."
"I think it is time that conservatives around the country begin to know the real Giuliani," said George Marlin, the former Port Authority head who ran on the Conservative Party line when Giuliani captured City Hall in 1993, describing his new Web site www.rudysreallyliberal.com.
said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser.
Rudy doesn't realize that the 2nd amendment is for EVERY state in the country.
I see no exceptions in the 2nd Amendment.
I just love the name of the wesite this appears on. Go get'em.
Well, none of my weapons have made their way to New York.
Once I get 'um I keep 'um. Drives the wife nuts. "What another one?" "No, Honey, this one's for the kid."
Giuliani is NO friend of the US Constitution. You just can't pick and choose which sections you like and which you don't. He won't get the vote of those of us who cherish the 10 original Articles of the BOR's.
"said Raymond B. Harding, the Liberal Party leader and the Mayor’s top political adviser."
Exactly! I seem to recall recently that someone here saying there was NO LIBERAL PARTY!
See, Rudy, the reason these are called "other states" is because they're not *your* state. Which means you don't have a say in their internal policy-making.
Did Giuliani really single out the Southern states for special FEDERAL gun control legislation?
If so, he's as bad as Bloomberg.
But fear not, in 2008 I shall vote against Hillary even if Rudy courts the Muslim vote while wearing a burka.
I really like gun control in the U.S. also. I control mine so well that I shot a perfect score on my latest CCW permit test.
Please point out what the man has said that is NOT true about Rudy. Thanks.
How large is it? Curious minds want to know. ;o)
Sounds like a good idea to me lol.
Good for Mr. Marlin, lord knows we have enough moron liberals pimping Rudy.
Nice shootin', Tex.
Here is a site you will love, I think they could use your bumper stickers too!
http://www.rudysreallyliberal.com/index.html
Every male who owns a gun in North Carolina is automatically in the NC Militia. At least that is what I was told when I came here.
bookmark
Membership:
With the exception of certain public officials, all able-bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 not currently serving in the regular armed forces or National Guard, and any former member of the regular armed forces, are by law already members of the "unorganized" militia. Law requiring militia participation are no longer enforced.
Ah, another "I hate Rudy" circle-jerk.
You people are going to get blisters.
I guess you don't even have to have a gun! LOL!
http://www.ncmilitia.org/
Florida is none of your business, Rudy, and I'll do all I can to keep it that way!
Deal with your damned barbarians up there, stop blaming their animal behavior on others.
Every male? You looking for trouble? LOL The women in NC might not like to hear that.;o)
I have a friend who lives in MI and he told me something similar, except he said "they call them deer hunters." He said they have over a million of them. That's good to know. That's why I was just wondering how many NC might really have. The more the better. I think we're going to be needing all of them for the coming war!
Must be all those liberal NYers moving down here to FL lol.
Gun Control is New York city's official religion. It doesn't matter what party affiliation you have in new york, if you don't believe in gun control, you are guilty of heresy.
Every year,new york city councilmembers, cut the flash from the second ammendment's dead body and bring it to sacrifice at the altar of Gun Control, (usually in the form of adopting another meaningless gun law).
That said, I do know that gun control is one of those issues upon which I completely disagree with Giuliani. Tough, law and order types often like gun control. I don't. But that wouldn't necessarily preclude me from hiring a tough law and order guy to be my sheriff. I would more likely look at his whole resume.
So show me one gun rights advocate who beats Hillary and all other potential Dimwit nominees head to head in polls posted at real clear politics, and I'll reconsider my support for the guy. Otherwise, this issue is not nearly enough to change my mind, and I doubt it will change others either.
Rudy's track record on both abortion and gun control are well known and established. He's already at 49 percent in a general election. This hurts him not at all.
I don't hate Rudy. Don't even know him. His policies and positions are unacceptable. I ain't gonna vote for him no matter what. But I don't hate him.
If he were interested in being of service to our country, Secretary of Defense or Homeland Security would be suitable.
This article is a good glimpse into the way Rudy thinks. If he just had UBER CONTROL he could fix things, and then the trains would run on time.
He can kiss my living-in-NY-Tarheel ass. I'll do everything I can to make sure he gets scuttled.
None of it's the Reagan admin's position, nor did Reagan ever advocate any such thing. These are Giuliani's ideas.
This statement has been proven incorrect by a number of polls that show large percentages of even Republicans misidentify or do not know his positions.
I notice you rudy boosters have all but given up trying to refute his REAL liberal record.
Liberal, Rudy, I'm stunned.
I think he's a bit left of Hillary.
Another ten (10) year old post. I hope your Scotch is older than that.
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