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---"Some of what the Mayor finds disturbing emerged from a Republican- dominated panel on immigration reform that issued its recommendations in June. Mr. Giuliani was right to characterize key parts of the package as pandering to an irrational fear of foreigners."---
1 posted on 03/16/2007 3:57:10 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Rudy keeps demonstrating that he is weak when it comes to protecting this country. I would not trust him on WOT.


2 posted on 03/16/2007 3:59:19 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TitansAFC

Screw the East Coast Liberal. So much for the so-called "Law and Order" candidate...and I'm not talkin' about Fred.


3 posted on 03/16/2007 4:00:44 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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"Rudy Giuliani: Oppose making English the “official language” of the U.S."

What then, may I ask, would be Giuliani's choice for an official language? Is not English already the de facto official language of the United States?

4 posted on 03/16/2007 4:02:24 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: TitansAFC

"Rudy. Liberal before liberal was cool."


5 posted on 03/16/2007 4:05:43 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: TitansAFC

He sure is an independent one. But, the Pres doesn't get to do much. Everything aside from the Commander In Chief stuff is done by Congress. The rest is for show.


6 posted on 03/16/2007 4:05:48 PM PDT by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: TitansAFC

All this is old news!

Instead of harping on this old news, we should be praising giuliani for all his 'accomplishments' that happened at the same time! Those things aren't old news!


7 posted on 03/16/2007 4:06:17 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: TitansAFC; All
THIS WAS FROM 1989. Why don't you post something recent:

Rudy has said that all immigrants must learn English. And he wants the borders closed!

China Post
Giuliani also has faced questions on illegal immigrants. He favors putting them on a path to citizenship as long as they learn English and wait their turn behind lawful immigrants --

RUDY ON IMIGRATION - FROM THE WEEKLY STANDARD

Rudy on Immigration

Last night, in an interview with Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Rudy Giuliani again put himself squarely in the president’s camp on immigration reform. The mayor is for tough border security, but he has also made the case in recent speeches that real reform must include a guest worker program and a “path to citizenship.” On Fox, Giuliani argued that comprehensive reform is not only practical but also aides in fighting crime and thwarting terrorists. Some highlights:

GIULIANI: Yes, yes. National Guard short-term solution makes a lot of sense. Increasing the border patrol.

O'REILLY: In the long term.

GIULIANI: Long-term over a period of time would be the permanent way to do that.

But you've got to seal the border. And you've got to do it with personnel. And you've got to do it with technology. You've got to have both.

And we have to know who's in the United States. We need to have information about who's in this country. And then you have to have a way in which people can regularize themselves as well. I mean, you need to get people out from under the table.

O'REILLY: So you would give them a pathway to citizenship?

GIULIANI: I would say -- this is a classic thing where you've got to do both, carrot and stick.

O'REILLY: Yes, but you got to do -- I think the stick first.

GIULIANI: You've got to do both.

O'REILLY: You know, you stop it and then back.

When you were the mayor in New York, illegal immigration rose in this city tremendously. I mean, you can't get a cab now with an American in there.

GIULIANI: But crime declined immensely….


GIULIANI: The Immigration and Naturalization Service would only deport 1,500 to 2,000 a year. So I said to myself I have 398,00 illegal immigrants because the federal government is not going to do anything about this. It can't. So I had to figure out how do I deal with it so that I regularize them, so that I.

O'REILLY: So how did you do that?

GIULIANI: They don't commit crimes. They don't - well, we made sure that their children were allowed to go to school for which we were criticized. But if I didn't do that, I would end up with children on the streets. If I had just said well, illegal immigrants can't have their children in school. And we tried to make their lives reasonable.

O'REILLY: How about city services?

GIULIANI: It would have been.

O'REILLY: Did you give them city money?

GIULIANI: Sure, we did. If they were necessary services. We allowed them, for example, to report crimes.

O'REILLY: Without being -- asked what their status was.

GIULIANI: Because we wanted the criminals who were committing the crimes.

O'REILLY: Right.

GIULIANI: A criminal can beat up an illegal immigrant today. He can beat you up tomorrow. So we need the.

O'REILLY: So you took the practical approach to it?

GIULIANI: But you've got to take a practical approach to it. There are 12 million illegals in this country. We got to stop illegals from coming in. And a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security that's needed to do that.

People and technology. At the same time, you've got this tremendous number of people who are below the table. As long as you don't know who they are, as long as you can't get them to come forward, you can't identify them, you can't photograph them, you have to figure out who they are, then you have a dangerous situation.

O'REILLY: It's interesting.

GIULIANI: Now terrorists can hide in that group.

O'REILLY: Oh, absolutely.

GIULIANI: And criminals can hide.

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8 posted on 03/16/2007 4:06:56 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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"Prohibit city workers from reporting undocumented immigrants to the INS, unless criminal activity is involved…"

Yes we must wait for them to rape and steal first. How can he prohibit a city worker from talking to the INS?

10 posted on 03/16/2007 4:07:23 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudy? He's the Neo-Neo Right. Of Hillary)
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"Once again taking sharp exception with the dominant conservative wing of his own party..."

If Rudy did become president (he won't but let's pretend) this is what we'll be hearing constantly. Wonder how the Rudybots are gonna explain it when they find out that Rudy *really* is a liberal? Glad we aren't gonna have to find out.
14 posted on 03/16/2007 4:11:21 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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Strike 1 - Juli is pro-abortion and wants Federal funding for it

Strike 2 - Juli wants fudge packers to be married (and cross-dressing mayors to get free Make-overs)


Strike 3 - Juli says it ok NOT to have English as our official language

Folks - Juli is also a RINO!

I will not vote for him or McPain!


15 posted on 03/16/2007 4:11:49 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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Rochester NY school board is actively promoting Ebonics: RUDY!


16 posted on 03/16/2007 4:12:34 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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Irrational fear of foreigners...

Yeah Right.

20 posted on 03/16/2007 4:16:40 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: AmericanMade1776; bcbuster; CaptainK; cgk; Choose Ye This Day; circumbendibus; Clintonfatigued; ...

Ping!


22 posted on 03/16/2007 4:21:02 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: TitansAFC

So many of these posts distinguish Guiliani from Romney. They are not even close to being the same.


23 posted on 03/16/2007 4:23:05 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: TitansAFC

I see that this is from 11 years ago. What does he have to say now?


24 posted on 03/16/2007 4:24:12 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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This ought to send the Rudy proselytizers into full scale assault mode. I hope that guy who knows who we are, and is watching us, does not blame me.

Hey, I had my locks changed.

25 posted on 03/16/2007 4:24:53 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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People who were happy with Ford and GHW will probably be okay with Rudy. People who want to keep a strong sovereign nation will probably be disappointed.


26 posted on 03/16/2007 4:25:41 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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TitansAFC;

Are you freakin' kidding me?!? 1995? 1989?

Last I looked, that was pre-9/11. This smacks of desperation....

You wanna beat him? I respect that - go ahead and beat him. But jeez, 1989?

I was a Titans fan, too, btw. If you're referring to the NY Titans (now the Jets) of the AFL.


29 posted on 03/16/2007 4:28:50 PM PDT by StatenIsland
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Note: August 1989 article!

Our Indian tribes in OK are taking exception to this same bill 'currently' in the OK legislature as they try to preserve their native language. They are flat out disgusted and continue to point out they were here first so why isn't a native language the official language of the Country. Only reporting what is going on here in OK not stating an opinion.


32 posted on 03/16/2007 4:31:26 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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Mr. Giuliani us a good Democrat.


33 posted on 03/16/2007 4:31:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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