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To: RedRover

“That was the “confidential briefing” that Congressmen babbled all about to reporters.”

So this was a “confidential” briefing by Lt. Gen. Richard F. Natonski, the Marine Corps deputy commandant for plans, policies and operations, to the HOUSE ARMED SERVICE Committee.

Refresh my memory, did some of these Congressmen babble to reporters? Seems like everyone is trying to leak info to implicate these Marines before their first hearing. Who hasn’t leaked may be a shorter list.


19 posted on 04/23/2007 3:29:54 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene
I don' have the link handy, but there was a story in USA Today on December 6, 2006 (weeks before charges were announced). The headline was, Marines likely to face charges in Haditha killings, congressman says

Here's a bit...

A congressman said Wednesday that about six Marines would be charged in the killing of 24 civilians, many of them women and children, last year in the Iraqi town of Haditha.

Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colorado, did not know what the charges were but said they were serious.

So there you have a congressman blabbing after a confidential briefing from the Marines.

I didn't include this in the list of leaks because Udall didn't hide his identity. But he belongs on anyone's list of bastards in this case.

21 posted on 04/23/2007 3:56:32 PM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: Girlene; lilycicero; RedRover; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ...

FEB 4 2005 LtGen James N. Mattis is recorded by the television station KNSD in San Diego speaking during a panel discussion hosted by the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association:
“Actually, it’s a lot of fun to fight. You know, it’s a hell of a hoot. ... It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right upfront with you, I like brawling. “You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn’t wear a veil,” Mattis continued. “You know, guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway. So it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them.”
CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad in response. “These disturbing remarks are indicative of an apparent indifference to the value of human life.”

MAR 2003 through early 2006.

Twenty-four Army personnel were charged in connection with civilian deaths. Twelve were convicted of crimes and received jail sentences that ranged from 45 days to 25 years. Four others were tried at courts-martial, resulting in one acquittal and three convictions with no confinement. Charges against two others were dropped. Six received administrative punishments, including four who cooperated with government prosecutions of their superiors.

Five Marines were involved in homicide cases. One officer was convicted of dereliction of duty and maltreatment for strangling an Iraqi prisoner in 2003 and was dismissed from the Corps; one was acquitted; and charges against three others were dropped.

MAY 12 2005 Lt. Col. Mark Winn, Hearing Officer, recommends charges against Pantano be dropped
MAY 26 2005 Maj. Gen. Richard Huck, 2ND MarDiv Commander, drops all charges against Pantano

NOV 19 2005 Haditha Massacre of Miguel Terrazas
NOV 29 2005 USMC Memorial Service for Terrazas

JAN 2006 Major General Stephen Johnson, USMC, (promoted to Major General FEB 2003) and in command of II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward) since NOV 2004;deploying to Iraq for Operation Iraqi Freedom 04-06 until January 2006, and who was top Marine in Iraq when the Haditha incident occurred is assigned independent duty as an Officer Selection Officer in Oklahoma City. Do the math on his next promotion.

FEB 14 2006 Army Lt. Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, commander of multinational forces in Iraq, appoints Army Col. Gregory Watt to preliminary Haditha investigation
FEB 24 2006 – The Marine Corps officially joined the ranks of U.S. Special Operations Command

MAR 2006 begins period where17 U.S. troops have been charged with murder in three separate incidents. MAR 9 Chiarelli receives the findings of Watt’s preliminary report and directs further review. MAR 12 Top Marine commander in Western Iraq, Richard Zilmer, requests NCIS probe MAR 13 The initial NCIS team arrives in Haditha.
MAR 19 2006 Chiarelli appoints Army Maj. Gen. Eldon Bargewell to investigate training of Marines in the Rules of Engagement and the Law of Armed Conflict; and whether the command climate in 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment encouraged the disciplined application of the Rules of Engagement and the Law of Armed Conflict
Bargewell served with the Rangers until 1981, then spent 17 years as a major with the Special Forces Operational Detachment — Delta Force and in 1998, he took command of Special Operations Forces in Europe, overseeing activities in Kosovo and Bosnia as a brigadier general.
MAR 19 2006 Time magazine publishes report on the Iraqi allegations of massacre and reporting in Marine chain of command

APR 2006 Chiarelli orders officers to look at every escalation-of-force incident that led to civilian casualties
APR 26 2006 Iraqis claim that seven Marines and a Navy medic intentionally enter a house in Hamdania, remove a disabled Iraqi civilian, shoot him, cover it up to make him look like an insurgent, slap his face with his own hand. This man is later found to have no head, hands and feet are bound with duct tape, and no evidence of any disability

MAY 17 2006 exmarine jack Murtha screws the pooch
MAY 31, 2006 Mattis, who popularized the slogan “no better friend, no worse enemy” -the slogan used by and against Ilario Pantano- is chosen to take command of the I Marine Expeditionary Force

JUN 2006 Major General Richard Huck serving as Assistant Deputy Commandant for Plans, Policies and Operations, Headquarters Marine Corps.
JUN 15-16 2006 Bargewell’s report forwarded to Chiarelli and from leaks it is said that no coverup was found, just that officers failed to ask the right questions. Official USMC statement was that Marines were adequately trained on the Rules of Engagement and Law of Armed Conflict but that reporting of the incident up the chain of command was inaccurate and untimely.
JUN 16 Major General Richard Huck served as Commanding General of the 2nd MAR DIV from 2004 until JUN 16. The Haditha Marines were more specifically 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, normally assigned to 1st MAR DIV however, at the time of the incident they had been temporarily attached to 2nd MARINE REGINMENT, 2nd MAR DIV to strengthen Marine operations in theater.
JUN 19 Huck retires

JUL 2006 Chiarelli faults the senior staff of the Second Marine Division, Maj. Gen. Richard A. Huck, and the Second Regimental Combat Team, Col. Stephen W. Davis, and recommended unspecified disciplinary action for some officers, concluding some officers were derelict in their duties per NY Times via two anonymous defense officials.
JUL 7 2006 Bargewell Report forwarded to General Casey, Commander, Multi-National Forces – Iraq and then to U.S. Marine Corps Forces, Central Command for appropriate action.
JUL 17 2006 U.S. Marine Corps Forces, Central Command provides copy of the Bargewell investigation to NCIS

August 16, 2006 Mattis takes command of I MEF

SEP 2006 Chiarelli made special assistant to the commander of Central Command with responsibility for developing the military capabilities of nations in the Middle East and Central Asia

OCT 2006 Bargewell retires

DEC 14 2006 Lt. Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, MNC-I Commanding General, officially hands over his title
DEC 21, 2006: The Marines file charges of unpremeditated murder against Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt and Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum. Charges of dereliction of duty charges for failing to investigate are filed against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Capt. Randy Stone and 1st Lt. Andrew A Grayson. Grayson also faces charges of making a false official statement and of obstruction of justice.

DEC 23 2006
Mattis: I was talking to a lieutenant in Haditha, he told me that because they are now all connected nowadays in their FOBs, he could read stories about Haditha. He said, ‘I guarantee you there has not been a reporter in Haditha in my last two and a half months here.’

We’re seeing, I think, an unwitting passing of the enemy’s message, uncritical, unwitting passing of the enemy’s message because the enemy has successfully denied the Western media access to the battlefields.

I’m not sure what Lloyds of London is charging now, I think it’s over $5,000 a month insurance for a reporter or photographer to go in. But the murder, the kidnapping, the intimidation means that, in many cases, we have media folks who are relying on stringers who are Iraqi.

Now you can have any kind of (complaint) about the American media or Western media you want, but there is at least a nod, an effort toward objectivity. The stringers who are being brought in, who are bringing in these stories, are not bringing that same degree of objectivity.

So on the one hand, our enemy is denying our media access to the battlefield, where anything perhaps that I say as a general is subject to any number of interpretations, challenges, questions, but the enemy’s story basically gets there without that because our media is unable to challenge them. It’s unwitting, but at the same time, it can promote the enemy’s agenda, simply because there is an apparent attempt at objectivity.

FEB 10 2007 Casey, who deployed to Bosnia-Herzegovina from JUL1996 to AUG 1997 where he and the Rear Command Post staff were based in Slavonski Brod, Croatia, took command of the 1st Armored Division JUL 1999. He relinquished command of the division JUL 2001, served as Director of Strategic Plans and Policy, J-5, the Joint Staff from OCT 2001 to JAN 2003-then became Director of The Joint Staff from JAN 2003 to OCT 2003 and then 30th Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, serving in that post until JUN 2004. Served as the senior coalition commander in Iraq from JUN 2004 to FEB 2007 when he relinquished the reins to Petraeus…but not before making this statement in JAN 2007: “The longer we in the U.S. forces continue to bear the main burden of Iraq’s security, it lengthens the time that the government of Iraq has to take the hard decisions about reconciliation and dealing with the militias. And the other thing is that they can continue to blame us for all of Iraq’s problems, which are at base their problems. It’s always been my view that a heavy and sustained American military presence was not going to solve the problems in Iraq over the long term.” JAN 4 2007 Tony Snow announced Lieutenant General David H. Petraeus for promotion to General and assignment as the coalition commander in Iraq in JAN 2007. Casey was concurrently nominated for elevation to Chief of Staff of the Army, the Senate confirmed his nomination FEB 8 2007 with a bipartisan vote of 83-14. Interestingly here is the bipartisanship who voted no: Bayh (D-IN)Clinton (D-NY)Feinstein (D-CA)Harkin (D-IA)McCain (R-AZ)Graham (R-SC)Bond (R-MO)Bunning (R-KY) Chambliss (R-GA)Coburn (R-OK)Smith (R-OR)Sununu (R-NH)Ensign (R-NV)DeMint (R-SC). Tony also announced the retirement of
General John Abizaid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44662-2004Jun15.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700770_pf.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/03/AR2006060300710_pf.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/world/middleeast/07cnd-haditha.html?ex=1309924800&en=a64c2d17f39a8c3e&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss]
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/12/26/perspective/17_55_4312_23_06.txt

I’ll just throw this in for dessert.
March 15, 2006: In a second incident in which Iraqis claim that U.S. forces intentionally killed civilians and that eventually will attract the scrutiny of Pentagon investigators, U.S. forces attack a site at Ishaqi, a village north of Baghdad, looking for a suspected terrorist and a bomb-maker. Under heavy fire, U.S. forces bring in attack helicopters and warplanes and later find the bodies of the bomb-maker and three civilians. An official military report says that as many as nine civilians could be dead, though it’s hard to say because the walls have collapsed. Iraqi civilians claim the Americans shot the civilians, then destroyed to building to hide evidence. The military denies that troops targeted civilians.
On June 2, a military investigation into allegations that U.S. troops intentionally killed Iraqi civilians in the Ishaqi raid clears the troops of misconduct, despite dramatic video footage of slain children. The probe found that the escalation of force was justified under the circumstances (the troops were taking heavy fire) and that allegations the military intentionally killed family is not warranted.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6663367


23 posted on 04/23/2007 3:59:01 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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