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Captain Randy W. Stone: Article 32 Summary
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| May 18, 2007
| David Allender
Posted on 05/19/2007 5:49:37 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: lilycicero; Girlene
Girlene’s the Gomer. I’m the Goober.
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posted on
05/19/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT
by
RedRover
(Defend Our Marines)
To: Girlene
We’ll hear a lot more about the “failure to investigate” at the Lt. Col. Chessani hearing. I bet Brian Rooney, Chessani’s attorney, is looking forward to it.
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posted on
05/19/2007 8:47:11 AM PDT
by
RedRover
(Defend Our Marines)
To: RedRover
Case frigen closed. Now. Do the Marines and or other military JAG officers have the courage to just stop *ucking around with our Marines. I hope general Mattis looks at his time piece and sees allowing this whole affair to go on as long as it has, is not in anyones interest, other then far left libs and some Iraqi and other insurgents.
Time Magazine hopefully will be finally scorched on this crap. Their clown crew along with their management must start seeing there are ramifications on reporting crap, especially when it comes to bringing down innocent American military that serve with honor and total commitment to their mission goals.
And Blurtha had better start getting some scornful notes from his colleagues, as how he totally acted out of line.
To: RedRover
When Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli ordered the investigation, no one at division or regiment had any fond feelings for Sharratt or Wuterich. Unfair though it would have been, I think the brass was mad as hell at those ant-like creatures far below them who caused all the trouble.
Well, unfortunately, war is messy. War with a combination insurgency/terrorists is messier, yet.
You see the result of the battalion commander sticking up for his guys.
Yes, Chessani got thrown to the wolves like those underneath him because he refused to bow to a Times reporter. When two of his officers received a forwarded e-mail from Tim McGirk, they indicated an investigation should be started even though the questions/accusations were worthless. They were willing to investigate crazy claims, Chessani was not. Chessani got charged for standing up for his men, in my mind.
I hope Brian Rooney has a field day with these prosecutors and their "failure to investigate" charges. Failure to investigate baseless claims by a Times reporter and Iraqis who may have been mixed up with the insurgency. Sheesh!
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posted on
05/19/2007 9:29:55 AM PDT
by
Girlene
To: RedRover
Women and children in the third house? Massacred?
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:37:31 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: RedRover
I guess the point of Dela Cruzs testimony (dropped charges) was to try to prove that bad stuff went on and Capt. Stone did nothing to root out the Dreadful Crime.
They’ve got him by the balls....but it ain’t over yet and that boy was taught to FIGHT.
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:40:48 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: Girlene; lilycicero; RedRover
Regarding your question, Girl, about interviewing Marines after combat being standard procedure when civilians are killed.
In the last days of this hearing there were comments made on the record that NO ONE knows what the standard is here when it comes to numbers of killed civilians.
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:43:00 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: Girlene; lilycicero; RedRover
Regarding your question, Girl, about interviewing Marines after combat being standard procedure when civilians are killed.
In the last days of this hearing there were comments made on the record that NO ONE knows what the standard is here when it comes to numbers of killed civilians.
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:43:05 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: Girlene
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:44:50 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...
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posted on
05/19/2007 10:46:30 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: freema
It’s confusing because Sgt. Wuterich’s fire team entered four houses—three of which ended up with dead Iraqis inside.
So people (including me) talk about the “third house” as meaning the third house with casualties.
The women and children in the house in the diagram above weren’t harmed and lived to make up tales about what they never saw.
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posted on
05/19/2007 11:15:01 AM PDT
by
RedRover
(Defend Our Marines)
To: RedRover
Well, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite, Red. Where’s the massacre, eh? /sarc
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posted on
05/19/2007 11:23:22 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: freema; RedRover; smoothsailing; jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero
As follows from a book review by Art Winslow:
Writing from Iraq for Vanity Fair last November, in a posting titled “Rules of Engagement,” journalist William Langewiesche began with the Euphrates and enumerated the towns strung along it in Al Anbar province: Fallujah, Ramadi, Hit, Haditha. Of the last, he noted, “Snipers permitting, you can walk it top to bottom in less than an hour, allowing time enough to stone the dogs. Before the American invasion, it was known as an idyllic spot, where families came from as far away as Baghdad to while away their summers splashing in the river and sipping tea in the shade of trees. No longer, of course. Now, all through Al Anbar, and indeed the Middle East, Haditha is known as a city of death, or more simply as a name, a war cry against the United States.”
Vanity Fair, which was perspicacious enough to hire Langewiesche away from his distinguished perch at the Atlantic, has just won a National Magazine Award for “Rules of Engagement,” a chronicle of the November 2005 killing of 24 Iraqi men, women and children in Haditha by U.S. Marines in the aftermath of a roadside bombing.
http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-bk-winslow20may20,0,5037260.story?coll=la-home-middleright
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Scroll down to the REPORTING and PUBLIC INTEREST CATEGORIES
http://www.magazine.org/Editorial/National_Magazine_Awards/Winners_and_Finalists/
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posted on
05/19/2007 11:39:50 AM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: freema
Vanity Fair, .... has just won a National Magazine Award for Rules of Engagement, a chronicle of the November 2005 killing of 24 Iraqi men, women and children in Haditha ,,,
Well, isn't that just dandy? So glad this whole Haditha thingy is working out for all these reporters, magazines, media outlets. /sarc.
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posted on
05/19/2007 11:55:12 AM PDT
by
Girlene
To: Girlene
Alternate universe. We are two Americas.
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posted on
05/19/2007 12:36:34 PM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: freema
Seems to be a few little inconsistancies on the part of the prosecution. Ahemm.
To: Girlene
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posted on
05/19/2007 2:50:43 PM PDT
by
lilycicero
(SSgt Frank Wuterich wins award for Vanity Fair.)
To: Marine_Uncle
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posted on
05/19/2007 4:34:01 PM PDT
by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: freema
To: RedRover
One of the very 1st things I had heard about this case was the 4 terrorists in a closet, with the accompanying denial that that would be possible, as it would have been hard just to get one of them in that closet.
I don't remember where I 1st heard that, but I figured the charges were BS then, and there's no doubt they are now.
That attorney's threats and statements sound like an old hen talking dirt about her neighbors - he's flailing, bad.
If that's all they got, this should be over quick.
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posted on
05/19/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT
by
4woodenboats
(If Amnesty is the Question, Filibuster is the answer. Build Fence Now Talk Later)
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