[Jeff Head]

Britanny and Madonna are both degenerates and without morales. However, they are free to be that way as long as they do not threaten, hurt or interfere with other's freedoms, and it is up to us, we the people in this free nation, to draw that line.

These Islamic Jihadists want to force their will on all, at the point of a sword, and under the threat of horrible death, and I can tell you that if I was in any position to do anything about it, meaning if I saw it happening and was close enough to intervene, I would shed my life's blood to stop these killers and do all in my power to end their life before they could harm either of these women.

We need to realize, as a people, as a nation, and our government, that we are in a war with fanatical enemies every bit as deranged, fanatical, and dangerous as the Nazis or the Imperial Japanese and conduct the fight in the same manner against those enemies and anyone who supports or abetts them...meaning any individual, any organization, any hamlet, village, town, city, or nation and lay those places low to the ground until the beg us, unconditionally to stop and we wholly eradicate and annihilate this ideology form off the face of the earth.

We should realize this now...all Americans, and act accordingly, before these people realize their goal and kill undreds of thousands of us...or millions. Which is exactly what they hope to do.

[Southack]

So Arafat could bugger little boys and waste away for years with AIDs while these same “people” would refuse to cut off his head...but let Britney dance a little and they want to cut off hers?!

That’s pretty gay.

[Noumenon]

Waht do you suppose the American response will be to a Beslan-style incident? Glen Beck has been making a pretty good case for the real possibiity for that occurrance.

[Aquinasfan]

However, they are free to be that way as long as they do not threaten, hurt or interfere with other's freedoms, and it is up to us, we the people in this free nation, to draw that line.

In a political sense, yes, they're free to emit their moral pollution into the atmosphere. But do they have an absolute right to do this? No.

[joanie-f]

Jeff, in stating that you would defend to the death, if they were under attack by jihadists, two women for whom you have little or no respect because you would feel called to do so despite their degeneracy, you yourself are illustrating perhaps the most striking difference between Islam and Christianity.

Islam demands adherence to ‘the law’ as put forth in the Koran – not only adherence from those who call themselves Muslims, but adherence from non-Muslims (‘infidels’) as well, without which violence and even death is to be the punishment.

Christianity, on the other hand, acknowledges that all men have the gift of free will. We are free to chose our beliefs, and, indirectly our eternal fate. Those who call themselves ‘Christians’ still retain their free will, and may choose to live lives that do not reflect Christ (in which case, only the Lord can truly determine the genuineness of their faith). And, according the Christian doctrine, no one must be forced to believe in Him. We are to witness and evangelize, but all men, by virtue of their free will, may choose to believe in the Son of God … or not.

You acknowledge the two women’s ‘right’ to choose to lead the lives they have chosen, but you also acknowledge your responsibility to defend their right to make that choice – and to exercise their free will without suffering punishment from those whose religion does not believe in such.

Islam, by nature, is repressive. Christianity, on the other hand, provides a well-lit path, but, by definition, is founded on the belief that man is free to choose his pathway in life, without coercion.

Christianity 'recruits' by example. Islam 'recruits' by bloodshed and coercion.

Thank you for the excellent post that so beautifully illustrates that critical difference.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

[Charlespg]

thank you

[EBH]

While I may not hold much personal respect for these two women, they are free and US citizens. Like Jeff Head has stated so eloquently in several posts it is several things that should inspire all of us to defend these ladies, despite our personal feelings. One is they are fellow citizens and two they have 'free will.' Neither of which permits us to condemn them.

All that aside though, my main point and/or question is does not this proclamation constitute a fatwa being issued on these ladies?

As Islamic scholar Ziauddin Sardar explains, "A fatwa is simply a legal opinion based on religious reasoning" and any Muslim can issue a fatwa.

Based on what I read from this article, these ladies and by extension all citizens of the US should be concerned at the issuance of such a proclamation from Muhammad Abdel-Al, spokesman and senior leader of the Popular Resistance Committees. Unlike Theo Van Gogh who was murdered in the streets for his attempt to reveal the true islam, these ladies are simply living their lives. I truly hope these ladies understand the threat that has been placed on their lives.

The American left will not grasp this at all. Even if they (islamists) carry out the threat and either kill the ladies or convert them, leftists won't perceive the threat to the rest of the nation.