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Frontline convinces me - Haditha Marines innocent
BlackFive ^ | February 19, 2008 | Uncle Jimbo

Posted on 02/20/2008 6:24:51 PM PST by RedRover

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To: Lancey Howard

With luck my wife would be there, she feels the same.


21 posted on 02/20/2008 7:13:11 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911; RedRover; lilycicero; pissant
McGirk flat out lied about the ‘hammurabi human rights watch’ organization. I promise here and now that should our paths ever cross I will slap the shit out of him.

Your point is well taken and Phil Brennan called McGirk on it today in the article Red linked to at the beginning of this thread......

”Frontline” accepted without question the legitimacy of the so-called Hammurabi Human Rights Association and allowed its alleged head man Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani to tell the story of the aftermath of Nov. 19, even though the organization consists solely of himself and one Thaer Thabit al-Hadithi — the original source of the video excerpts “Frontline” showed.

Both men are known insurgent propagandists whose communications were closely monitored by Marine intelligence officers. It was from those intercepts that the Marines were able to predict the Nov. 19 insurgent ambush in Haditha.

Moreover, “Frontline” neglected to inform viewers that the same Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani had just been released from almost six months captivity for insurgent activities. And al-Hadithi was considered a useful intelligence tool by Marines listening to him talk on his cell phone, as “My Men Are Heroes” author Nat Helms has also reported on the Defend Our Marines Web site.

22 posted on 02/20/2008 7:15:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: wtc911

He’s crosseyed, he won’t know where it came from.


23 posted on 02/20/2008 7:15:54 PM PST by lilycicero (I swear he was in Lord of the Rings.)
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To: lilycicero
He’s crosseyed.......

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At 6'1", 195 lbs I can fix that.

24 posted on 02/20/2008 7:18:53 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

I hope the day comes!

I’d like to be in the position to repeat your tagline to him, he’s a lying cockroach.


25 posted on 02/20/2008 7:21:26 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

Maybe I’m just jaded but those coming out NOW are a little late for the bandwagon. I seem to remember a good number of the same bloggers damning the Marines initially. I guess it makes me angry cause we’ve all been fighting for so long to get the story out and now they start chiming in. But the good news is that the truth is finally getting out and the Defend Our Marines got a link from PBS!

Sorry for being little miss pissy-pants but there are so many of us that refused to swallow the media driven story from the get-go. It would have been nice to have some of these “big names” chiming in on this 2 years ago...


26 posted on 02/20/2008 7:28:21 PM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: RedRover

I was so pleasantly surprised by the show I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Tim McGirk looked like a vindictive, pissy little pansy and a complete moonbat.

Cindie


27 posted on 02/20/2008 7:30:21 PM PST by gardencatz (My son is learning Arabic so you don't have to...oorah!!!)
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To: gardencatz; RedRover

I agree gardencatz. I was pleasantly surprised. This was a decent overview of Haditha. The producer was not biased against the Haditha Marines....if anything, I would say the documentary was more “fair” than I could ever expect. Arun Rath did an admirable job within an hour time constraint to tell the story of Haditha.

And he framed the story right with its title. This incident was always about the Rules of Engagement. McGirk and his merry band of insurgent “human right group” folks might have wanted to label it a “massacre”, but it was always about the Rules of Engagement. If this is how we trained them....if this is what we need....sometimes, this is what happens.


28 posted on 02/20/2008 7:47:25 PM PST by Girlene
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To: wtc911

Funny, I said the same thing last night.


29 posted on 02/20/2008 8:00:41 PM PST by AliVeritas ( To err is human, to screw up takes Berkeley 's City Council) Hope in God, not man.)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

Exactly.


30 posted on 02/20/2008 8:02:06 PM PST by AliVeritas ( To err is human, to screw up takes Berkeley 's City Council) Hope in God, not man.)
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To: lilycicero
He’s crosseyed, he won’t know where it came from.

He's been that way since they stole his precious

31 posted on 02/20/2008 8:32:06 PM PST by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org)
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To: RedRover

save


32 posted on 02/20/2008 9:41:50 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: RedRover

I trust Brennan. If he didn’t like it, then I don’t like it.


33 posted on 02/20/2008 10:19:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

I don’t disagree with you, Chick. Many were afraid of going out on a limb. Others were reluctant to criticize the military justice system. For whatever reason, too many sat on the sidelines when public opinion was still being formed. It makes our job all the harder now.


34 posted on 02/21/2008 4:06:14 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Awesome post by Phil Brennan-
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/frontline_haditha/2008/02/20/74083.html


35 posted on 02/21/2008 4:24:04 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: RedRover

I still think Frontline hid the little girls testimony about covering her ears in anticipation of a big explosion, shows they did not show enough balance. And they should have made mention that the Sunni insurgent McGirk dealt with was just that, an insurgent.


36 posted on 02/21/2008 4:50:54 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: freema

Post #36. Gotta hit the rack.


37 posted on 02/21/2008 5:50:38 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: freema

Quite stunning things Phil brought out regarding how the roads where repaved etc..


38 posted on 02/21/2008 5:54:04 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Indeed!


39 posted on 02/21/2008 6:08:41 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: xzins; Girlene; jazusamo; All
Latest post by Tony Perry on the Los Angeles Times blog:

Haditha law, Feb 21, 2008

As the court-martial approaches for Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, charged in the killings in Haditha in November 2005, prosecutors warned the judge in Camp Pendleton this week that testimony from fellow Marines would be contradictory and "begrudging," according to news reports.

But prosecutors will not be relying solely on testimony from Marines who were in Wuterich's squad the day 24 Iraqi civilians were killed after a a Marine lance corporal died in a roadside bombing.

A team of prosecutors and Naval Criminal Investigative Service agents is in Haditha this week to videotape depositions with witnesses to the shootings and also relatives of the dead Iraqis. Military defense attorneys will be present.

The team left from Al Asad in a heavily guarded convoy. Wuterich faces voluntary manslaughter and other charges. The videotaped depositions are meant to be used in his trial and those of another enlisted Marine and the battalion commander, prosecutors said.

40 posted on 02/21/2008 6:48:50 PM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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