“3. That leaves only the possibility that his passport is wrong in listing Honolulu Hawaii and only deliberate fraud by him or his mother (even lying to Barack about his place of birth) took place. You have to believe (a) they wanted to commit fraud and (b) they somehow succeeded. Neither is at all plausible.”
“Yeah. It’s inconceivable that someone would want American citizenship for their baby badly enough to lie on a government form. “
It’s inconceivable that someone would want American citizenship for their baby badly enough that they would leave the Honolulu Hawaii where they grew up and were going to school and had married their husband and jaunt off to the 3rd world just to have a baby, then turn around fly back and do everything you can to hide this event that you spent thousands of dollars (as a poor college student no less!!) to put into effect, and smuggle the child back into USA while evading/fooling passport office. Beyond bizarre, its practically an impossibility.
once again, where’s the plane ticket for Stanley Ann Dunham? Where’s the evidence of travel for here away from Honolulu? There is none. JUst your fantasy conspiracy theory.
Maybe you lie on a government form with regularity, but it is a slander against Stanley Ann Dunham to suggest she committed fraud when you have no evidence at all to back up your claims.
Modified, limited hang-outs DO lose Presidencies.This is what the Obama birth story is so far: A classic modified, limited hang-out.
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It's inconceivable that newlyweds would go on a honeymoon.
Stanley Ann had compelling reasons to visit the folks before she had to travel with a baby.
You are libeling Stanley Ann by saying you think she's too stupid to figure out how to get her and her new husband off to visit his parents.
IMHO besides getting knocked up in the first place, she made one small mistake, she didn't realize that the airlines wouldn't fly her back when she could drop the kid at any moment.
She wanted her kid to have unquestionable American citizenship. She feared that the US wouldn't recognize her polygamous marriage, and believed that illegitimacy required him to be born on US soil.
The plan was visit the folks over the summer, and be back in time for the joys of childbirth. Then the airlines blocked it. What now?
She tried to make it so, at least on paper, as soon as he was born.
Get him back on US soil immediately and claim he was born there. What reason did the civil service clerk have to doubt her story when she came in with an itty-bitty baby (oooooooo! he's so cute) that he was born anywhere but on the island?
That first little bit of paper starts the process of "proving" he was born at home in Honolulu, with no midwife or physician attending...