[David]

Your #2463: Well ok, the simple explanation is that Obama Sr. married Ann in Maui--great wedding spot; people do it there all the time.

Let's see--is there any single record anywhere or any single person, the guy who married them, a witness, anybody who can say it happened there? It's a violation of local law for the guy who did the marriage not to file the certificate--where is it?

The newspapers almost always find one of the two events, the marriage license or the marriage certificate, and report it in their Vital Statistics--you find it there?

You don't find anything that supports the fairy tale they got married on Maui, you start thinking about what it is they don't want to tell you.

It can't be said to prove anything to demonstrate that they were married in Kenya; but if you could, you put her, pregnant, in Kenya, and you are part way to explaining how she was there and didn't get back for the birth.

Take the other simple: Break from school; she has dropped out. "Wedding picture" says Barack; in the Departure Lounge of the Honolulu airport. Too early (Christmas decorations still up) to be February 2. The obvious inference is that they are going somewhere to get married. Where are they going? I don't have a lot of trouble with the blanks.

[tsmith130]

The newspapers almost always find one of the two events, the marriage license or the marriage certificate, and report it in their Vital Statistics--you find it there?

WE cannot get a copy of the marriage license from vital statistics for the same reason WE cannot request a copy of the birth certificate. WE are not the parties on the marriage certificate (or BC), nor are WE relatives or descendants of the parties on the marriage certificate (or BC).

IF you want to PAY online, you can check the newspapers for published wedding/marriage announcements or go to Hawaii and check the microfiche in the library.

Just because no one is producing them for your perusal is not evidence in and of itself that they don't exist.

[meia]

Let's see--is there any single record anywhere or any single person, the guy who married them, a witness, anybody who can say it happened there? It's a violation of local law for the guy who did the marriage not to file the certificate--where is it?

The newspapers almost always find one of the two events, the marriage license or the marriage certificate, and report it in their Vital Statistics--you find it there?

You don't find anything that supports the fairy tale they got married on Maui, you start thinking about what it is they don't want to tell you.

Since you haven't seen any evidence to support the Maui wedding, you assume it never happened. But you also don't have any evidence that a wedding took place in Kenya, yet you assume that is what happened. Which one is actually the fairytale?

[browardchad]

David, your sentence structure is hard to follow, but I'll try.

1. Marriage certificate: I didn't state that I thought Dunham and Obama were ever married (and neither did the article I cited) in fact, it's reasonable to assume that the divorce was bogus, and only filed to get an equally bogus wedding date on record. 
   
2. Your words: "It can't be said to prove anything to demonstrate that they were married in Kenya; but if you could, you put her, pregnant, in Kenya, and you are part way to explaining how she was there and didn't get back for the birth." How does not being married in Hawaii somehow translate into being married in Kenya? How about this very simple theory: they were never married, anywhere, anyplace, and the whole marriage story was part of the fairy tale told by Stanley Ann Dunham, and perpetuated by BO to cover a rather sordid story of a foreign student from Kenya who impregnated a teenager who was infatuated with his "blackness", and then the owner of that "blackness" skipped out on both her and the baby.
3. Your words: "Take the other simple: Break from school; she has dropped out. And? She was pregnant, and her parents were very likely horrified. I don't know how old you are, but it was not socially acceptable to be pregnant and unmarried in 1960/61. BO can blather all he wants about his grandparents and/or Hawaii being so open-minded, but the Dunhams were not unconventional -- unconventional types didn't own homes,  work in banks and sell insurance in those days.
   
4. Your words: "Wedding picture" says Barack; in the Departure Lounge of the Honolulu airport. Too early (Christmas decorations still up) to be February 2." Can you please direct me to the source where Barack has called those photos "wedding pictures?"  I haven't seen it, anywhere. The Christmas decorations were still up because (surprise!) it was still the Christmas season of 1971/72, when Obama's ostensible "father" came to visit him and Stanley Ann in Hawaii.
   
5. Your words: "The obvious inference is that they are going somewhere to get married. Where are they going? I don't have a lot of trouble with the blanks." No, "they" weren't going anywhere. The pictures -- one with BO, Sr. and Stanley Ann, and the other with ten-year-old BO, Jr., were taken in 1971, and BO, Sr. was either arriving from or departing to destination Kenya.

And yes, you are having way too much trouble "with the blanks." It's called "making the facts fit the theory," and it doesn't work.

Look, if you believe there's a problem with the birth cert (and I'm not convinced there is), then, as I've said before, why not entertain a much simpler theory? I can think of at least two that might not be as spectacularly explosive as the messiah being born outside the US, but they would certainly do damage to the whole carefully constructed fiction of his birth and ancestry.