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To: Fred Nerks; Calpernia; bvw; SE Mom; David

Is the Saudi prince one of a cabal of those fronting Obama? Might explain the question of who paid for his party and election signs etc at the Convention in 2004.
Even more interesting is the mention that his mother Ann received a degree in math which has never been publicised! That would explain her position setting up micro banks.
see here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080830/NEWS05/808300339/0/SPECIALOBAMA08

Also another article in the series mentions the Dunhams moving from “a large house on Kamehameha... to the apartment at 1617 S. Beretania St, located on the 10th floor of the 12 story building.”
That pops a hole in David’s theory that the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address was the Dunham’s as Obama hmself mentions only two homes for his grandparents besides the apartment and we know from a previous article that they had lived in “a modest wooden house on University Ave near Kamanele Park”. Maybe the house on University Ave was the first home they lived in which they sold before Ann came back from Washington, buying the larger home on Kamehameha Ave so Ann and Obama could live with them? When Ann married Lolo they sold the house and moved to the apartment which would fit in with the dates. (a friend of Madelyn mentioned that Madelyn has lived in the apartment for 40 years, making Obama 7 when they moved into the apartment)


5,485 posted on 09/02/2008 7:45:02 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; expatguy

Expatguy noticed something similar about the homes described in Indonesia as to not making sense.


5,486 posted on 09/02/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Chief Engineer

There has been no evidence whatsoever that obama snr and Ann ever lived together anywhere...letters written by acqaintances of obama snr during the period 1960-1961 with accompaning photographs do not mention or show Stanley Ann at all. It’s almost as if she did not EXIST in the life of obama snr in Hawaii.

6085 Kalanianaole Hwy is a fabrication just as is his name and father’s race, IMO.


5,487 posted on 09/02/2008 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Chief Engineer
Also another article in the series mentions the Dunhams moving from “a large house on Kamehameha... to the apartment at 1617 S. Beretania St, located on the 10th floor of the 12 story building.” That pops a hole in David’s theory that the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address was the Dunham’s as Obama hmself mentions only two homes for his grandparents besides the apartment and we know from a previous article that they had lived in “a modest wooden house on University Ave near Kamanele Park”. Maybe the house on University Ave was the first home they lived in which they sold before Ann came back from Washington, buying the larger home on Kamehameha Ave so Ann and Obama could live with them?

It should be relatively simple for someone in Hawaii to lay to rest the issue of who owned the reported address on August 2, 1961 - who had record title? It would also be helpful to have names and addresses of persons who owned adjoining or neighborhood properties because you might be able to run down a person who knew and remembered what had really happened.

Obviously, my theory is that Ann did not live there until well after August 4, 1961 if at all.

At present, it looks increasingly like the legal side of this issue may not get to the point of a justiciable (actual case or controversy involving a real legal issue with parties who have standing to raise it) legal action for some time. But continued evaluation of the facts is helpful because when the issue does get to the table, they will be important.

Maybe the only remedy will be President Biden or President Palin.

5,514 posted on 09/03/2008 6:29:27 AM PDT by David (...)
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