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To: Red Steel

The thing is, this is a bit of a technicality. I would rather nail him on substance - the views and reality that extist between his ears.

I sort of compare this to the fiasco regarding McCains citizenship. It never looks good when you win by a minor technical default - which is how I see this, regardless of what really happened back then.

If his mom was a citizen, that’s good enough for me. In case nobody noticed, I am more of a “spirit of the law” than a “letter of the law” sort of guy.

That argument didn’t work so well with the motorcycle cop last week though...


53 posted on 07/08/2008 10:34:01 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy
The thing is, this is a bit of a technicality. I would rather nail him on substance - the views and reality that extist between his ears.

Yes, it has a low chance of success because Obama obfuscates the facts, and beating Obama in the voting booth is the likely scenario. However, for the same reason of Obama obfuscation and obscured past, makes looking into Obama's history worthy of effort.

56 posted on 07/08/2008 10:57:53 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RobRoy
If his mom was a citizen, that’s good enough for me. In case nobody noticed, I am more of a “spirit of the law” than a “letter of the law” sort of guy.

The "spirit of the law", that is the Constitutional provision, was to avoid foreign entanglements/interference. If some foreign "prince", "potentate" or just plain politician, took a US citizen for a bride, with or without the normal niceties such as consent, and 40 years later inserted that kid into American political circles, that would provide a powerful fulcrum to influence US policies in the world. That's why the original provisions required either both parents, or the just the father, to be (a) US citizen(s), if the child was born overseas. I don't think they thought about the sort of drive by sperm donor that BHO Sr. proved to be, but the principal is the same, foreign influence at the highest level of the US government is to be avoided, and thus the requirement that the President be a Natural born citizen.

Obama already has far to much foreign influence, in George Soros, without even considering his sizable set of foreign relatives who are or are descended from his half siblings, plus that "grandma Sarah" who is one of his grandfather's wives, but not the mother of BHO Sr. If, in addition to all that he were technically not "natural born", then he should not be eligible to become President. The original 1790 provisions were intended to cover the case of US Citizens who happened to be abroad at the time the child's birth, but whose loyalty remained to the US. McCain is in that sort of situation, but Obama is not. His mother only lived in the US for a few years after his birth, took another foreign husband after even fewer years, and still did not return to the US, rather sending her child to be raised by her parents. Such a person must have conflicted loyalties, especially if he considered that stepfather as "father" for many of his most formative years.

81 posted on 07/08/2008 4:23:47 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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