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OBAMA’S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE: why I’m STILL right, and they’re wrong.
Polarik's Blog ^ | July 20, 2008 | Polarik

Posted on 07/21/2008 3:31:32 AM PDT by Amityschild

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To: MeanMachine
Born in United States, son of a United States citizen, therefore he is a US Citizen.

or, so the legend goes.

21 posted on 07/21/2008 11:46:01 AM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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To: Polarik; muawiyah
...Which is why we're saying that JPG images are not proof of anything...

It's been heading in that direction for a long time. Counterfeit money was probably the first government document to be forged. Teenagers got forged IDs to go drinking. 9/11 perps got forged drivers licenses from 7/11 parking lots. Voter registrars like Acorn forge signatures, candidates (like Obama) challenged candidate application signatures as forged or unqualified to eliminate opposition.

The MSM has run altered photos, darkened photos, mis-reported photos, staged photos, Middle East fauxtography. Just a few weeks ago we had the altered photo of Iran's missile launch.

One of my earliest FR vanity threads was about mandating passports for all citizens for voting purposes, only because tampering with passports for vote fraud would put at jeopardy the validity of the passport to other countries for free travel purposes, a trade-off that I presumed people just wouldn't be willing to make.

So now we have birth certificates. And now we're being asked to accept web facsimiles of parts of physical documents as if they were the real thing, with all the legal authority that comes with the real thing.

I'm concerned about the possible future precedent of reliance on web facsimiles of parts of documents, rather than the actual physical thing itself, especially for something as important as the presidency of the United States. Even with the forged Texas Air National Guard documents, CBS "experts" complained that they were only shown images of the documents, but never the actual documents themselves, and so were reluctant to authenticate them.

Have we learned nothing from that?

-PJ

22 posted on 07/21/2008 12:01:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: AppyPappy

Check his sign up date to answer your question.


23 posted on 07/21/2008 12:06:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: muawiyah
Sounds like the guy thinks the KOS image is a phoney concoction.

Well, that's where I began six weeks ago.

At the same time he buys off on all the sample documents he received from others as being apparently legitimate even though they all have the same "kerning".

Why not? They have nothing to hide, and sent them in as soon as they were asked. The only one who refused and stonewalled was Obama.

Also, "kerning" is not the issue for me, and never was.

We'd need to know at each stage of the game ~ transformations from one format standard to another and back several times do create strange stuff.

Funny you should mention it. That is exactly what I talked about in my other posts. I'm not sure what you mean about a "low-res scanner." How much money does the Obama campaign have? Like $180 million? Did they get their scanner off of eBay? The original scan was at least as large as 2550 x 3300 pixels -- which is not too shabby. I think that it was more like 6600 x 5100, reduced 45% and then cropped.

We'd need to know at each stage of the game ~ transformations from one format standard to another and back several times do create strange stuff.

Again, that was the purpose of my experimentation. I'll be more than happy to send you the 320 test images I made in the process if you'd like to see how I arrived at my conclusions. I don't have the bandwidth to post them all.

BTW, One of my findings is that the image was once an 8-pp bitmap before it became a JPG.

24 posted on 07/21/2008 12:34:47 PM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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To: Polarik

Thank you. Unfortunately, for me it still seems to be “FORBIDDEN”!


25 posted on 07/21/2008 12:50:50 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Polarik

“At the same time he buys off on all the sample documents he received from others as being apparently legitimate even though they all have the same “kerning”.:

I’m obviously at a disadvantage here, but one of Techdude’s points was that the layout and kerning on all the known to be genuine certificates (of which he had the originals) were identical, whereas the KOS version was different in both respects, as well as regards the security border.


26 posted on 07/21/2008 12:57:16 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Nipfan
I’m obviously at a disadvantage here, but one of Techdude’s points was that the layout and kerning on all the known to be genuine certificates (of which he had the originals) were identical, whereas the KOS version was different in both respects, as well as regards the security border

I mentioned in my blog on June 20th that the Kos border looked nothing like any COLB I've seen. To me, it looked like it was added after the body of the COLB had been altered.

Besides being a drawn graphic, the border had traits similar to dry-transfer graphics, like LetraSet. On June 22. I sent him and TD an almost identical graphic comparing all of the different upper-left, border corners.

In other words, not exactly a TechDude "exclusive."

27 posted on 07/21/2008 2:11:07 PM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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To: Nipfan
I'm not sure what is the problem.

Try clicking on this link:

Click Here

and see if it works.

Maybe your browser security settings are too high!

28 posted on 07/21/2008 2:17:08 PM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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To: Amityschild
Strata-Sphere makes a detailed rebuttal of techdude. Atlas Shrugged July 20, 2008 The discussion has gone over my head. Can anyone make sense of this?
29 posted on 07/21/2008 4:11:43 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik

Thanks. I could get on in the office but I’m still not sure if I can at home. In any case, I can read it now.


30 posted on 07/21/2008 4:11:54 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Polarik
At the same time if you want to see what a certification of a birth havng been filed looks like you can save yourself a trip to Hawaii by looking at something on the internet.

First really good photoshop photo I ever saw was produced by some former Army intelligence types who put together Pope John Paul with Hillary Clinton. The picture had his hand on her butt.

It takes more than a photoshop image to convince anyone.

Still, I've noticed that most of the complainers who are kvetching about the two different website images (which were probably run off at different times) appear to be asking for Obama to post yet a third website image ~ which we are supposed to believe is true?

Get real guys, if it's on the net, it doesn't mean a thing.

31 posted on 07/21/2008 6:12:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah
"It takes more than a photoshop image to convince anyone...Get real guys, if it's on the net, it doesn't mean a thing."

Ditto! I could not agree more...but why do the Lefties insist that it is genuine?

32 posted on 07/22/2008 4:41:18 PM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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To: ckilmer

Read my blog post. It’s simple, and to the point.


33 posted on 07/22/2008 4:43:21 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Nipfan

I said that the Kos image was very different a month ago.


34 posted on 07/22/2008 4:53:17 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

Your typical Leftwingtard is simply not able to think beyond a couple of steps. They put great store in the value of “magical thinking”.


35 posted on 07/22/2008 6:15:51 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Polarik

Great stuff there!


36 posted on 07/27/2008 12:29:41 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: rodguy911
Great stuff there!

Thank you!

37 posted on 08/12/2008 6:41:31 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: muawiyah
Your typical Leftwingtard is simply not able to think beyond a couple of steps. They put great store in the value of “magical thinking”.

Exactly. I never knew just how loony these leftists liberals until I started reading what they said on the HuffingtonPost.com, which IMHO, is worse than the Daily Kos.

If you're looking for a fast acting emetic, read that.

38 posted on 08/12/2008 6:43:26 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: muawiyah
Still, I've noticed that most of the complainers who are kvetching about the two different website images (which were probably run off at different times) appear to be asking for Obama to post yet a third website image ~ which we are supposed to believe is true?

There has been one, and only one image of Obama's COLB from six weeks ago to today. Copies of the same image are on the Kos, Fight the Smears, and FactCheck. The image is a forgery regardless of where it was posted.

Get real guys, if it's on the net, it doesn't mean a thing.

I wish that were the case, because everything about Obama on the net wouldn't mean a thing.

39 posted on 08/12/2008 6:52:51 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik
Ditto! I could not agree more...but why do the Lefties insist that it is genuine?

For the same reason they think Obama is the Messiah. It's called the "Barackholme Syndrome."

40 posted on 08/12/2008 6:54:26 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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