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Choosing Your First 1911
Xavier Thoughts aka Nurse With a Gun ^ | 7-27-08 | Xavier

Posted on 07/28/2008 2:30:24 AM PDT by Bodhi1

The first problem of choosing a 1911 is narrowing down the field of bewildering candidates. It's a process of elimination. The 1911 performs many shooting tasks extremely well, but it is often modified from it's basic format to perform some better than others. Knowing your reasons for wanting a 1911 as well as your intended purpose for it's use can narrow the field of candidates quickly.

Do you want the 1911 to have one in your collection? Yes, that's a valid reason. Do you admire the tradition and the history? Another valid reason. If these are your reasons, then a military styled 1911 is your meat. Look for parkerized Government Models with small fixed sights a lanyard loop and high ejection ports. In order of expense, these include: Rock Island Armory, Springfield, Colt, and genuine GI guns. Each of these manufacturers make a GI styled 1911, and they will float your boat if you want a GI styled 1911. Such a pistol will serve admirably as a carry gun, although the finish must be oiled, the sights are small, and it requires a bit more effort in concealment.

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TOPICS: Hobbies; Reference
KEYWORDS: 1911; banglist; firearms; guns; handgun

1 posted on 07/28/2008 2:30:24 AM PDT by Bodhi1
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To: Bodhi1
Personally, I have a full-sized Springfield 1911A1 and a compact Kimber. However, if someone wanted to try a 1911 style .45 and didn't want to spend a lot of money, I'd suggest the Taurus PT 1911. It's a decent quality gun with lots of features found on custom guns. Best of all, it's not a wallet buster at $600.


2 posted on 07/28/2008 4:05:49 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline Currently Under Construction)
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To: edpc

We’ve been selling a respectable number of those, and we generally don’t stock Taurus automatics because the owner of the store got tired of paying overnight freight to return them when they broke. These are well made and the customers like them. The stainless one is under $700.00.


3 posted on 07/28/2008 4:16:09 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Bodhi1

I’m seriously considering starting a daily firearm thread. I already run one daily, though, so two of them is a bit much. It would work if 5 or 7 people did it and each took an assigned day. Topic: whatever you found noteworthy, as long as it’s related to firearms. Interested?


4 posted on 07/28/2008 4:21:33 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: sig226

Buying less expensive guns can be a problem. My Taurus PT 99 9MM took new springs after 20 years. It is still one of the best firing guns I own. You should fire high quality guns to know how well a gun can fire. Then if you buy a less expensive gun, you will know to return a lemon. I have not had to do that yet.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 4:35:00 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: bmwcyle
I don't know ... I'm not much of a pistolier, but I've had really great luck with other low priced guns.

My Stoeger 2000 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun is as fast cycling and reliable as any gun I own. I have a Mossberg Silver Reserve O/U that I've put 15,000 rounds through without a hitch and still closes tight. Just this past weekend I shot two 24's and a 23 with it.

And my main "practice rifle" is a Moisin Nagant model 91 that will put 5 shots in 2 inches at 100 yards. Not a one of those guns cost me more than $400 with the taxes and fees included, and I've never had a problem.

6 posted on 07/28/2008 5:01:58 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: zeeshan
Have you decided on what you want to do already?

I noticed your interest in Glocks sort of waned.

7 posted on 07/28/2008 5:10:28 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: tcostell
Dead is dead, if you can hit the target in the black with a Romanian AK-47 with a Aimshot $125.00 site, mission accomplished.
8 posted on 07/28/2008 5:12:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Bodhi1

I’m finally set with my 1911’s. I was looking for a standard full sized Government and the stainless Taurus seems to do the job. I was a little disappointed when I found the stainless was in a Matte finish and the writing made it impossible to polish. I did notice I could polish the frame.

The new grips should be in about two weeks.

There’s a sharp corner on the right side of the grip safety that has to be taken care of. It took a slice out of my hand on Saturday. The tang has to be lowered anyway. I’ll do that when I get the grips.

I’m really happy with the sights which are dead at IDPA distances.

I’ll try posting a picture of the pistol when I get the grips.


9 posted on 07/28/2008 5:16:31 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I have 26 1911s at last count, but my favorite is a stainless Springfield .45ACP Champion modified in 1997 by the late Joe Bonar of Novak's in WV. I have several high end 1911s from Wilson, Les Baer, STI, etc..., but not a one of them aims and shoots as well as my Bonar Champion.

For a first time 1911 buyer, I would have to agree that the Taurus is an excellent pistol, with many really nice custom features that you would pay extra for otherwise. The only thing I'm not crazy about is the stupid integral lock that they placed on the hammer, but I'm sure that if you wanted to it could be replaced with a non-locking hammer.

10 posted on 07/28/2008 6:19:56 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: sig226
If you can get the idea up and off the ground I have an excellent link for you, Jim March's Revolver Checkout
11 posted on 07/28/2008 11:13:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: edpc

I wanted the best 1911 money could buy, without paying beyond that. I bought a hard chromed Les Baer custom 1911. Some of their models will group 1 1/2 inches at 50 yards. Even some rifles can’t shoot 3 minutes of angle!


12 posted on 07/28/2008 11:25:46 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: B4Ranch

Want to take a day?


13 posted on 07/28/2008 2:00:19 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: P8riot

I’m thinking of a ittle red Lok-Tite on that hammer lock.

That Champion I have is pretty cool. It was a gift from my son.

Post some pictures of your’s when you get a chance.


14 posted on 07/28/2008 2:51:36 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: sig226

I would settle for some nice gun pictures on Friday if someone wanted to get it going.

The rest of the week is swamped by just the threads from the bang list.


15 posted on 07/28/2008 2:53:30 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You mean like this?


16 posted on 07/28/2008 2:54:53 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

I’ll post more when I get home, but right now I’m on the road (so to speak).


17 posted on 07/28/2008 2:56:11 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: JMJJR

Huh ?

there are other brands besides Colt ?

;)


18 posted on 07/28/2008 2:58:25 PM PDT by JMJJR (Now you KNOW why we're called the stupid party !)
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To: P8riot

I can’t see any ports. Is it a V-10?

what work was done to it?


19 posted on 07/28/2008 3:01:43 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Nope not into ported pistols.

Here is what is on the work order:

Conceal carry Pkg
Novak sight Pkg
ghost rear double dot night sight
match bushing
crown bbl
Reliability Pkg
Carry bevel Pkg
Videki trigger
Trigger job
Extended grip safety
Extended thumb safety
Sighted in with 230 gr JHPs at 25yds

20 posted on 07/28/2008 3:10:23 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Bodhi1
A Colt 1911 is the only pistol I would consider having. Well, a Colt and a Kimber is the only pistol. The only two pistols. A Colt and a Kimber and a Springfield Armory are the only two. Three. And a Para-Ordnance. That's only two. I mean four. The Les Baer is a little pricey, but if I could only have one pistol it would be a Colt and a Kimber and a Springfield Armory and a Para and a Les Baer and a Smith & Wesson. And a Taurus. And a Les Brown.

That's if I had to choose only one.

21 posted on 07/28/2008 3:10:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

The older Colts are nice, but anything after about 1985 is mediocre in my opinion.


22 posted on 07/28/2008 3:13:25 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Billthedrill
...and a Glock and a Kahr and a Sig and an HK and a Browning and a Ruger...

Now, if I could have two...

23 posted on 07/28/2008 3:22:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Shooter 2.5

You would settle as in you would do it? Because if that’s all you ask, it’s yours. Now there are four. We need one more.


24 posted on 07/28/2008 4:36:48 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: P8riot

That’s a great picture of a very beautiful pistol. I have to laugh when someone posts a picture of their favorite and the picture is so poor, you can’t tell what it is.

That’s a lot of work to a gun that was supposed to be good to go right out of the box. I have the Springfields strickly for the muzzle ports and it wasn’t until later I couldn’t use them for IDPA because they don’t allow any compensators or ports. I’m still getting a designated IDPA pistol ready.


25 posted on 07/29/2008 5:09:02 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: sig226

I’ll start this Friday. It will be a gun porn thread. But I don’t know what the subject matter should be. We might have used up 1911’s for awhile.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 5:11:08 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5

We can start with CCW guns. That opens the door for a LOT of gun pics.


27 posted on 07/29/2008 5:13:25 AM PDT by Pistolshot (We need a powerful remedy for NO B.O.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

How about ammo selections and CCW preferred weapons. I never see Bersa sized weapons on the gun porn threads; with the proper ammo, those can be effective self-defense weapons for CCW.


28 posted on 07/29/2008 5:19:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
The trigger breaks at a consistent 4lbs, and I have never had any functioning issues, even with cheap mags, which as you know are the 1911's weak point. For personal defense I use Wilson mags, but have a variety for range work. Also, the pic shows the gun in BBQ dress with the Hakan grips. I normally carry it with a set of thin checkered cocobolo grips in a Brommeland MaxConV IWB holster.

For the purist in me, there are no plastic or MIM parts in this pistol, all parts are top of the line forged pieces. I am considering sending it back to Novak's for a check-up and to nave new sights installed (these are almost 12yrs old and are getting dim). I may also have them bobtail it, but I haven't made my mind up on that yet.

29 posted on 07/29/2008 5:52:15 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: MHGinTN

Show and tell is a great sport when it comes to CCW. Often, when the topic comes up in conversation at work, some guy will talk about his full sized, double stacked, custom night-vision equipped Eargeshplitten Loudenboomer. Suitably impressed, I always say, “Wow, I’d sure love to see that!”

Almost invariably, the response is, “Wait a minute while I go to my truck.”

Out comes my 60’s vintage Colt Cobra; they look at me funny and ask, “What’s with the pop gun?”

“That is what keeps you from getting to your truck.”

What are your solutions to carrying a gun in 100 degree heat without looking like you’re out of place?


30 posted on 07/29/2008 6:36:09 AM PDT by M1928A1 Thompson ("A policeman's job is only easy in a police state!")
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To: M1928A1 Thompson

Colt Detective Special, Colt Mustang .380, and the eternal hammerless J-frame.


31 posted on 07/29/2008 6:39:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: M1928A1 Thompson

Fanny pack


32 posted on 07/29/2008 7:29:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The Dick Special is a steel framed version of my Cobra. I own and shoot lots of guns, but limit what I carry daily to two. A Commander when I can get away with wearing a jacket and the Cobra when I can’t.

When working under pressure, a half-century of habit are tough to overcome. When I go to hit the slide release, for example, I don’t want it to be the hammer drop on the SIG I happened to be carrying today. Similarly, if a do a partial load on the revolver, I don’t want a series of clicks because I forgot a Smith turns counter-clockwise.

There are few things as demoralizing as hearing a click when you were expecting a boom!


33 posted on 07/29/2008 7:30:53 AM PDT by M1928A1 Thompson ("A policeman's job is only easy in a police state!")
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To: M1928A1 Thompson
When I go to hit the slide release, for example, I don’t want it to be the hammer drop on the SIG I happened to be carrying today.

Uniformity of controls is good. That's why I got rid of a Walther P99, I once found myself pushing down on the trigger guard of a 1911 when it was time to drop the mag... very embarassing (at the range, fortunately)

34 posted on 07/29/2008 7:54:14 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Shooter 2.5

nops .. thinking about hk.45 usp


35 posted on 07/29/2008 1:01:55 PM PDT by zeeshan
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