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1 in 5 Fathers Wrongly Named, CS Agency Says
GlennSacks.com ^ | 8/5/08 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 08/06/2008 11:14:39 AM PDT by PercivalWalks

"Men lie more, women lie bigger. A man's lie is, 'Where was I? Um, I was over at Tony's house.' A woman's lie is, 'That's your baby.'"--Comedian Chris Rock

From DNA testing: One in five fathers wrongly identified by mothers in Child Support Agency claims (Guardian, 8/1/08):

Nearly one in five paternity claims handled by the Child Support Agency end up showing the mother has deliberately or inadvertently misidentified the father, figures show.

Since DNA paternity testing figures began to be collected in 1998-99, 4,854 paternity claims have turned out to be false after DNA testing.

Under child support legislation it is a criminal offence to make a false statement or representation, and to provide false documents or information.

However, according to the CSA, there has not been a single prosecution of a woman for making a false claim. The figures showing the number of false paternity claims have been compiled using freedom of information legislation.

The latest figures for 2007-08 show that out of 3,474 tests ordered, 661 or 19% named the wrong man...CSA rules state that if the DNA test establishes that the named father is the actual father, then he must pay for the cost of the test. If the DNA establishes he is not the father then the taxpayer pays, so there is no consequence for the mother in making a false claim.

A few points:

1) One out of every five DNA tests show that the woman is either mistaken or father-shopping. Father-shopping is when a woman lies as to the identity of her child's father, choosing a high-earning man over a low-earner.

I once had a scientist who ran a DNA lab as a guest on my radio show and he told us that sometimes he would have to test three different guys for the same mother. One would be a well-to-do guy who had money. Another might be a low/middle earning man. The third would be a muscle-bound tattooed guy who just got out of jail.

Who was the real father? Almost always it was the guy who just got out of jail, he said. The women were trying to "father-shop" and get child support from the well-to-do guy to pay for the kids they had during their romps with their bad boys.

2) This can be a terrible injustice against the men involved. Some of the men will take the woman's word for it or can't afford a DNA test and end up on the hook for 18 years of child support for kids who are not theirs. Yet, not surprisingly, in 10 years of doing this, "there has not been a single prosecution of a woman for making a false claim."

3) In light of these injustices, what does the political spokesman say? Here it is:

Chris Grayling, Conservative spokesman for work and pensions, said yesterday: "This is an extremely worrying trend and one where proper action should be taken. If some CSA claimants are getting away with making false applications, it will not only slow things down for other families, but it also sends the wrong message about the things we're willing to accept."
No words about the victimized men, but he's quick to show concern that it may slow things down for other women to get their child support checks.

Read the full article here.

Glenn Sacks, www.GlennSacks.com

[Note: If you or someone you love is faced with a divorce or needs help with child custody, child support, false accusations, Parental Alienation, or other family law or criminal law matters, ask Glenn for help by clicking here.]


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: childsupport

1 posted on 08/06/2008 11:14:39 AM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

She: “He’s been sleepin’ around on me so much, I’m not even sure this baby is mine!”


2 posted on 08/06/2008 11:17:48 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Vigilantism will arise where the justice system is viewed as overly lenient and/or ineffective.)
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To: PercivalWalks

IMO, that’s another part of marriage: Certainty in paternity!


3 posted on 08/06/2008 11:22:06 AM PDT by republicanequestrian
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To: republicanequestrian

yeah married women never cheat, LOL


4 posted on 08/06/2008 11:37:00 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: republicanequestrian
IMO, that’s another part of marriage: Certainty in paternity!

Unless your wife cheats on you.

5 posted on 08/06/2008 11:38:32 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: republicanequestrian

One wishes that were the case. It is not so, always.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 11:40:21 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: edzo4
yeah married women never cheat, LOL

Why do you think otherwise Conservative demographic women support abortion in such high numbers?

7 posted on 08/06/2008 11:41:03 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: PercivalWalks

That’s but one
of the many risks
associated with
sleeping around.

If a man
acts like a dog
and lies down
with a dog,
he might as well
expect to get up
with fleas.


8 posted on 08/06/2008 11:43:34 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: PercivalWalks
Why aren't the women prosecuted? Two reasons:

1) Too hard to prove (Woman, "Well, I thought it was his!").

2) Political correctness . . . .

Still, the woman should be made to pay for the test if she is wrong. It would be incentive for her to get it right the first time!

9 posted on 08/06/2008 11:44:20 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: edzo4; bajabaja; garbanzo
I guess my enthusiasm in my newly married state (and my own appreciation of my rhyme :) kept me from adding those observations.

But you're all right; I don't deny it. It's a shame that adultery happens at all, though.

:)

10 posted on 08/06/2008 11:45:54 AM PDT by republicanequestrian
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To: republicanequestrian

Congratulations on your recent nuptials. I think Charlton Heston said that “Marriage is a mirror.” It’s not only the other person, it is us too. He also said that the most important words a man needs to know are “Honey, I am sorry.”

Keep her busy.


11 posted on 08/06/2008 11:50:33 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: PercivalWalks

mybaby’sdaddy ping


12 posted on 08/06/2008 11:53:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: PercivalWalks
sometimes he would have to test three different guys for the same mother. One would be a well-to-do guy who had money. Another might be a low/middle earning man. The third would be a muscle-bound tattooed guy who just got out of jail.

Who was the real father? Almost always it was the guy who just got out of jail, he said. The women were trying to "father-shop" and get child support from the well-to-do guy to pay for the kids they had during their romps with their bad boys.

zero suprise here

13 posted on 08/06/2008 12:16:17 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: PercivalWalks

Well men and women need to continue to organize politically, and keep fighting this injustice. If men and women stand up to this insanity the laws will change. This isn’t a men vs. women thing more than the product of a rotten, decaying culture where both men and women display their decadence in different ways. Viva La Sexual Revolution!


14 posted on 08/06/2008 12:22:04 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: republicanequestrian

In some states like the one I live in if the man is married automatically the child is his. I know of a case where the guy married the woman because she said the baby was his and has been fighting for years to get this law changed. Let’s just say that once the baby was born he knew that it wasn’t possible and paid for DNA testing that confirmed his suspecions. He was white Mother is white but baby was obiviously not. Law still hasn’t changed unfortunately.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 12:22:30 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: PercivalWalks
I once had a scientist who ran a DNA lab as a guest on my radio show and he told us that sometimes he would have to test three different guys for the same mother. One would be a well-to-do guy who had money. Another might be a low/middle earning man. The third would be a muscle-bound tattooed guy who just got out of jail.

The official DNA tester for the Maury Povich show?

16 posted on 08/06/2008 12:54:11 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: PercivalWalks

They do not want the dads id’d cos then it cuts into the benefits from the gummint—I know—I represent a lot of the dads and believe you me, the gals fight like crazy not to get matched up with the correct papa


17 posted on 08/06/2008 2:55:42 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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