Posted on 08/07/2008 2:01:53 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
Ah, yes, the trick of overlooking the Apostolic Council in Acts and the writings of St. Paul.
The Church, using the authority granted by Christ, set aside most of the cultic law of the Old Covenant, but did keep the prohibitions against porneia (sexual immorality) and blood (in the West taken as bloodshed, in the East as a very limited recollection of the Kosher prohibition—we Orthodox don’t eat blood sausages), so we Christians eat shellfish (it’s even allowed to Orthodox Christians during our fasts) and don’t have to check the label to avoid wool-linen blend clothing.
Thoughtful post. Thank you.
“Barack Hussein Obama makes the argument for moral relativism. Which leads inevitably to moral anarchy. Which in turn will lead to some form of tyranny. Because there WILL BE a moral order.”
Well said.
“The form of government established by the founders of this nation is the best that humans have so far conceived. And it is based on limiting government by pitting it against itself in the hopes it would be hamstrung just enough to prevent it from becoming a tyranny.”
Thrown off balance by the Marxist law professors. It endured lasted a long time and still just might. But it’s a hard fight.
“Once the parties come to agree that they can make the Constitution mean whatever it is they SAY it means (regardless of what it actually says) our liberty dies. And this is exactly what is happening.”
While we desperately cling to a faint hope in McCain, we will need to fight him tooth-and-nail if he wins. If Obama or Hillary win, we will be demoralized and overrun with dual citizen votes. Checkmate.
“We are now at the point where the Constitution is almost meaningless.”
Ominous times, and the UN salivates over the prospect of a few more leftists in the Supreme Court.
Obama’s in for a tough fight.
FRegards ....
What Obama speaks of isn’t Christianity. Christianity is accepting Christ as our Savior and trying to live a life worthy of His grace. Christianity is acceptance of the inerrant testimony of the Bible. The point isn’t whether we fully understand it or not. The point is we accept it as God’s Word, whole and true. It is our belief that gives us justification because of what He sacrificed for us sinners. We don’t deserve that grace, nor can we earn it. It’s a gift and all we need do is accept it.
This is nothing of what Obama speaks. He speaks of Christians having to subdue their beliefs in order to create a more perfect society on Earth. He has no understanding that Christians don’t live for a perfect society on Earth. They live for what’s to come after this life is over. And with that in mind, why then should we subdue our beliefs? This life simply isn’t important in the grand scheme of things. But this belief of his is proof enough that Obama isn’t a Christian, doesn’t understand Christian belief, and simply uses the garment of Christianity to fulfill his Worldly desires.
I have to make some more comments. Sorry.
This speech is deeply insulting. It is aimed at Christians and Jews. It is a clear exposition of the left’s vision of religion.
This man is ignorant of history. He knows little of religion but I am sure he is convinced of his own wisdom and the “rightness” of his opinions about the subject. His view of American history is twisted and his vision for America is frightening. This man would have no problem passing then using laws aimed at suppressing religion. Neither would he have a problem passing and using laws aimed at suppressing political opposition. Once in power, if backed by a congress dominated by like-minded persons, he will pack the courts with jurists who share his overall views. Once that happens the American experiment will die.
I have never feared more for this nation.
I only wonder how long God is going to be mocked.
"What Obama speaks of isn’t Christianity. Christianity is accepting Christ as our Savior and trying to live a life worthy of His grace. Christianity is acceptance of the inerrant testimony of the Bible. The point isn’t whether we fully understand it or not. The point is we accept it as God’s Word, whole and true. It is our belief that gives us justification because of what He sacrificed for us sinners. We don’t deserve that grace, nor can we earn it. It’s a gift and all we need do is accept it."
"This is nothing of what Obama speaks. He speaks of Christians having to subdue their beliefs in order to create a more perfect society on Earth. He has no understanding that Christians don’t live for a perfect society on Earth. They live for what’s to come after this life is over. And with that in mind, why then should we subdue our beliefs? This life simply isn’t important in the grand scheme of things. But this belief of his is proof enough that Obama isn’t a Christian, doesn’t understand Christian belief, and simply uses the garment of Christianity to fulfill his Worldly desires."
All I did was post what, after 65 years of being part of a Christian family, I've learned. You don't need to thank me for that.
He’s no messiah. As for the antichrist, I suspect he would be a disappointment in that department too. =]
Excellent! That would make a good tagline...
One can mock God all one wants. But then comes the point we'll all face, where one is brought to meet God.
I thank people in today’s world for admitting to be a Christian as you did.
Thank you. (Now accept the grace as I kid my wife!)
Yes, pastor.
Right. Atheists are filled with tragic thoughts, thinking that this is ‘all there is’. A tree falls ‘forever’. A bird dies and is ‘forever lost’. ‘You only live once’. Death is unspeakable. That helps explain the irrational priorities of the Left and why they view us as irrational for not freaking out over every ‘eternal’ loss.
That's as good as an atheist can get. Predatory atheists are much worse.
Oh, there are many Evangelical sects out there today who don’t get it either. Justification by faith and original sin are being lost to the doctrine of moral relevancy.
There’s no longer good vs. evil. The Bible is nothing more than a history book that has some good advice on how to live our lives. The message of the New Testament is that we are all one under God. How can we say we are better because we’re Christian? Doesn’t the sinner also have a place in God’s Kingdom? Who are we to say he doesn’t?
Oh, btw, the one about the Bible being just another book is one from a Lutheran pastor of a synod I no longer belong to.
“Justification by faith and original sin are being lost to the doctrine of moral relevancy.”
I guess that preachers being educated in Marxist colleges is going ‘really well’.
bcsco,
I am in awe of your post. I am a 47 y.o., newly baptized (Mothers Day 08) Christian. You said all that could be said. You are so correct. Our Belief is not about this world, but the next. The Word says what it says, and is constantly twisted by those who would see it diminished.
You are right. IMHO, he is closer to Nebuchadnezzar’s idol with clay feet.
Sorry? Yeah, I'm really mad at you. [Just kidding. =]
“This speech is deeply insulting.”
Darn straight it is.
“It is aimed at Christians and Jews. It is a clear exposition of the left’s vision of religion.”
Their contempt. Karl Marx sought to replace worship of God with worship of government. Obama sought to paint us as ‘kooks’ without outright slandering us.
“This man is ignorant of history. He knows little of religion but I am sure he is convinced of his own wisdom and the “rightness” of his opinions about the subject. His view of American history is twisted and his vision for America is frightening. This man would have no problem passing then using laws aimed at suppressing religion. Neither would he have a problem passing and using laws aimed at suppressing political opposition. Once in power, if backed by a congress dominated by like-minded persons, he will pack the courts with jurists who share his overall views. Once that happens the American experiment will die.
I have never feared more for this nation.”
Actually, I think he's much the same as others before him. To me, there is now hope. If we had elected Al Gore, I believe that would have been the death blow. We are one president away from losing it all. [A lot of 'bitter clingers' in the Supreme Court.]Ever since FDR, the left has worked steadily to infiltrate our courts with dangerous ‘justices’. They also seek to weed out religious judges and have been very effective since demanding virtual human sacrifice via abortion ‘rights’. Now we have the Kelo ruling over our heads.
How badly does the Left want this? Badly enough to violate their constitutional duty. In lock step, democrat senators unconstituionally filibustered judicial nominees. It was their duty to offer ‘advice and consent’. There's no room for ‘filibuster’ mentioned.
Sure, most of the appointments were by Republican presidents. What people fail to add is that the first two nominees are often blocked, and the third one is either a compromise or a closet leftist. Even if the third choice is neither, look at Blackmun, appointed by Nixon. Blackmun felt like he was over his head, and his wife was wooed by the Beltway Party Crowd. She ‘assured’ a law clerk that she was ‘working on’ her husband [Blackmun] at home while the clerk worked him over in the office during the Roe v Wade decision. Blackmun later was caught up in his fan mail [and bristled at the hate mail]. Both kinds of letters pushed him further left [just goes to show what the third best choice results in— a justice who is influenced by fan mail]. Source: Men in Black.
We have a serious problem whether it's Obama or Hillary. Remember her pornographic Christmas tree in the White House?
Welcome to the community of Believers. As we say in our church, “God’s blessings. Peace be with you”.
I’ll be 65 next month and am a life-long Lutheran. I’m not saying that because of conceit, just to announce myself. You see, Christianity isn’t about the sect, it’s your personal relationship with your Savior. We commune together to help support one another because we know that even as Christians, we’re still humble sinners in need of help. And, to paraphrase what Christ said “Where two are together, there am I also”.
This “humble sinner” stuff is all too often missing in today’s Christian message. But we were born in sin and will die in sin; unless, that is, we truly accept God’s grace through the sacrifice of His Son. That’s the gift He offers. And only through it will we find salvation. Also, there’s nothing we can do to attain that salvation. It’s freely given to all who will accept it. (If it weren’t it would diminish Christ’s sacrifice on the cross). For those who don’t (or won’t), they will be judged by the Law (which is God’s Law).
I don’t know whether Barry Obama is in the “don’t” or “won’t” category. I don’t know what message he’s been given these 20 some years from that Rev. Wright (except for snippets). But it’s clear he’s going to be judged by God’s Law. As will the good Rev. Wright.
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