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To: js1138
None of the major proponents of intelligent design deny common descent, so what is your competing hypothesis?

I'll try to get to your other two posts later or another day, but I'm still interested in an answer to my question - could you elaborate on your above statement please and give an example of a major proponent of intelligent design that doesn't deny ASBE (All Species By Evolution).

What exactly do you mean by "Common descent" in your statement above?

Do you consider Answers in Genesis a major proponent of intelligent design? I just did a quick search on their website and found some random article (which I did not read through) which says "Distinct kinds really are there and the experts know it to be so." -- so I don't know what major proponents you are talking about. But backing up one's claims with fact is always a useful thing to do!

Thanks,

-Jesse
102 posted on 08/18/2008 8:59:37 AM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse

Common descent means that all living things are related by descent, just as you are related to your parents.

This gets messy at the microbe level because single celled organisms tend to share DNA rather promiscuously. It’s also true that a good portion of our (and most living thing’s) genome consists of viruses that have infected our ancestor’s germ cells and stayed along for the ride. You can track the history of these infections in the genomes of our distant (living) cousins. It’s one of the strongest lines of evidence that we are actually related to other creatures and not just sharing a common design.

You asked for an ID proponent who accepts common descent. Michael Behe will do. He’s the only person the ID movement thought was qualified to represent their side at the Dover trial. But he’s not alone. Check out the web sites uncommondescent and telicthoughts.

Even answeringenesis accepts common descent to the level of Family. I don’t know how they work out the details, because apes, including ourselves, are a biological Family.


103 posted on 08/18/2008 9:26:45 AM PDT by js1138
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