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I have been trying to find an article discussing how Palin as VP affects the Bob Barr spoiler factor. Any thoughts? I think Barr has been polling at around 4-6%.
1 posted on 08/31/2008 7:44:27 AM PDT by 1curiousmind
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I think Barr is irrelevant to McCain. I think Palin brings far more Hillary voters to the table just because she is a woman.


2 posted on 08/31/2008 7:47:18 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Anecdotally, I know of a couple of former committed Barr voters who will now only vote for him if the race is too far gone one way or the other in their states for thier votes to matter. If it is close, they’ll vote McCain/Palin.

Palin was the factor in both cases.


3 posted on 08/31/2008 7:47:40 AM PDT by John Valentine
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If you’re smart enough to be an NRA member,then you’re smart enough not to piss your vote away to a hopeless candidate like Barr.


4 posted on 08/31/2008 7:47:51 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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Barr? Is he still running? I’m sure he’ll get as many votes as McKinney. He never had a chance, he’s only a protest candidate for the Republican anti McCain faction. He’ll draw a few votes but it won’t make a dent. Even without Palin, I probably would have pulled the lever for McCain over Obama.


6 posted on 08/31/2008 7:53:11 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If everyone stays home and no one votes will Congress disappear?)
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In the spirit of *REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE* - now would be a good time for McCain & Bob Barr to put aside their differences as a certain way to prevent a Poseur & Plugs Presidency.

Come on youse two - buck up and brave up for the USA!


7 posted on 08/31/2008 7:53:26 AM PDT by sodpoodle ("Have faith in God...but keep your powder dry." Oliver Cromwell)
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So the NRA might think the ACLU is good on gun rights?


8 posted on 08/31/2008 7:53:50 AM PDT by JLS (Do you really want change being two guys from the majority of Congress with a 9% approval rating?)
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I doubt the NRA was giving Barr a second thought. We have an election to win and we all have to work to defeat obama by electing McCain.


10 posted on 08/31/2008 7:59:03 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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Bob Barr Who?


12 posted on 08/31/2008 8:01:46 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 (E)
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Its time for us to start thing more strategically, an less tactically.

A NRA endorsement for Barr that helped result in an Obama victory would have disastrous effects on the 2nd Amendment; and on the NRA membership rolls. Don’t you think the NRA leadership is savvy enough to know that?

It didn’t take 1-2 election cycles to get ourselves into the sorry mess we are now in, and it’ll take more that 1-2 cycles to get our way out.

We need to deal with the big picture here, and quit second guessing each and every POSSIBLE tactical move any one person or group might consider.


13 posted on 08/31/2008 8:02:45 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Irrespective of the NRA factor, the selection of Palin undercuts Barr’s support in several areas.


15 posted on 08/31/2008 8:04:13 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm investing in "Pitchfork Futures"!!)
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the only split bar was doing was the potheads who accidentally vote for him over ronpaul.


18 posted on 08/31/2008 8:16:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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If John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his VP running mate forestalls any steam that Bob Barr might pick up from an endorsement by NRA, that is merely fortuitous, but by no means a major reason, in any event. It just happened, a turnip that fell off the truck.

Bob Barr COULD be a spoiler. But Sarah Palin rallies a lot of support, both in enthusiasm and cash, to the McCain ticket. The race is alive in a way that could not be predicted even a week ago. There stands a chance that Ralph Nader could be a much LARGER spoiler, for the Democrats, than Barr is likely to be for the Republicans, now.


19 posted on 08/31/2008 8:17:03 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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Sorry, but a vote for Barr is as good as a vote for Obama in this election. Palin was a good choice for McCain on many levels. Balance, indeed.


21 posted on 08/31/2008 8:28:46 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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Palin should eliminate any chance that Barr (or Baldwin) will act as a spoiler in November. Many "moderate" Republicans may not want to admit it, but McCain had a serious problem with the conservative wing of the party - a very real risk that some would vote spitefully. Even a small fraction of the conservative wing doing this could throw the election.

I know Palin is THE deciding factor for me. McCain may be a horrid POTUS, but setting up a conservative for 2012 alone is worth the price of the clothespin. If this ticket succeeds, (1) an Obama presidency is thwarted, and (2) Giuliani and Huckabee's hopes for 2012 are all but dashed. I do not have high hopes for the next 4 years no matter who wins...honestly, not even with Palin as veep. Sorry, I do not trust McCain given his recent history, and ultimately it is the POTUS (not the veep) who leads the march. The future beyond 4 years is what motivates me.

22 posted on 08/31/2008 8:29:11 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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McCain was invited to speak at the NRA convention. I didn’t see Bob Barr there.


23 posted on 08/31/2008 8:30:51 AM PDT by MCF
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Barr is an embarrassment. His run is all about ego and adds nothing to the political process, and could cause nObama’s election. I consider his third party farce akin to treason if that happens.

He would have much more positive impact as an advocate of conservative values after nObama is defeated, vocally arguing against the administration when McCain wanders off the path.


24 posted on 08/31/2008 8:34:00 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Let's Roll!!)
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I think you’re halfway to the mark. It’s not simply about the NRA’s endorsement about Barr but the fact that Barr represents a protest vote for conservatives disgruntled at McCain on a gamut of issues.

Now McCain solidified his conservative credentials on a broad series of issues.

This definitely minimizes Bob Barr’s impact in the general.


26 posted on 08/31/2008 9:04:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius (Lets Act like True Conservatives Here)
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Perhaps, but isn't she the antithesis of Obummer's atheistic statement made in San Fagcisco: "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Palin is not bitter. She exercises her Second Amendment rights. She believes in God and practices her religion. She is cheerful and has no antipathy toward those who are unlike her (so long as they are not breaking the law.) She is not anti-trade as long as it is free trade regulated by free markets not by government bureaucrats. And she is definitely not frustrated even though many people would have been by all but being kicked out of the Republican Party in Alaska for fighting corruption inside the party as well as outside. By doing so she saved the/her party.

Don't be fooled. McCain's choice of Palin is aimed at Obummer and Joe "the Lush" Biden.

27 posted on 08/31/2008 9:05:45 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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Any thoughts?

Indeed. You're out of your gourd.

-ccm

30 posted on 08/31/2008 10:12:54 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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Even a McCain, soft on gun rights is better than an Obama who will do everything to diminish gun rights. It’s not that Palin is pro-gun, it is that she is a true and unapologetic conservative. You can’t be a true conservative if you aren’t solid on gun rights.


31 posted on 08/31/2008 10:31:00 AM PDT by yazoo
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