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FactCheck.org is dangerously biased
vanity ^ | September 12, 2008 | Jackson

Posted on 09/13/2008 3:43:57 PM PDT by lonestar67

Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy. Not true. Not even close.

(Excerpt) Read more at factcheck.org ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: election; factcheck; factcheckorg; mediabias
I have a broad concern that I believe needs Freeper attention.

FactCheck.org is a very influential site-- especially during debate processes. It is clear to me after viewing their website and exchanging email with the editor, that the site has become profoundly biased for Obama. I think we need to make a concerted effort to modify this.

Actions I recommend:

1. Make frequent question requests to Fact check that may force negative information on Obama 2. Ask Fact check to disclose the political disposition of their staff 3. Ask Fact check why they favor Obama about 8 to 1 in their article analysis.

The dominant narrative of this site is: Obama stretches the truth about once a week while McCain breaks it every hour. This needs public pressure.

1 posted on 09/13/2008 3:43:57 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: lonestar67

Who died and made them boss anyway?!


2 posted on 09/13/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: lonestar67
Thank you for pointing this out!

After going to their site, it looks as if it is being run right outta Obama's headquarters!

I couldn't get their email to open...so, I'll copy it and move it over to open at my address.

3 posted on 09/13/2008 3:49:53 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (Elizabeth, what are you doing on the 'View' hanging out with those lipstick wearing Pigs?!?)
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To: lonestar67
FactCheck is the Annenberg thing. When the old man died he'd done better to have had his money tossed into the sea than to have funded the foundation that controls this piece of garbage.

Obama's FRIENDS control the foundation and the website.

Still, as bad as these people are, they've inspired me to move to takeover Warren Buffet's various foundations after he's dead and gone. Instead of promoting abortion, as he'd planned, I propose that we "reorient" them to finance campaigns to develop 4 legged chickens (and other useful barnyard produce).

4 posted on 09/13/2008 3:53:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lonestar67

“FactCheck”.org is an affiliate of the Annenberg, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers and Obama were on their board.


5 posted on 09/13/2008 3:53:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: lonestar67

Thanks FactCheck. Who knew that Alaska was now barely relevant to US energy policy lol? Obama you will note has no accomplishments related to energy, but then he doesn’t have any real accomplishments period in his post-Harvard career beyond attracting fawning media attention and getting elected.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 3:53:28 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: lonestar67
As I recall, Palin said that Alaska had 20% of American OIL reserves, not 20% of energy. If my memory is right, FactCheck is chasing a nonexistent fox.

Congressman Billybob

Tenth in the ten-part series, "The Owner's Manual (Part 10) -- The Remaining Amendments"

Latest article, "I, Obama"

7 posted on 09/13/2008 3:54:12 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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To: lonestar67

I went over there to see who was running that joint. Brooks Jackson, the guy who used to be at CNN back when I actually watched that channel. That’s all I needed to know. I couldn’t stand that guy when he was sucking up to the Democrats back in his CNN days.


8 posted on 09/13/2008 3:55:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Whites lift McCain to slim lead over Obama in poll" - Ass. Press ---09-12-08)
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To: lonestar67

Yes! I agree. I noticed this when they said that it was a lie that Obama was going to raise taxes...

It is worrisome that they are becoming so influential and regarded as a final arbitrator of what is factual. For the most part, they are just another extension of Democrat media bias.


9 posted on 09/13/2008 3:56:23 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK!!!)
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To: lonestar67

If I start a website that proclaims me to be the king of the world, and enough people hit it, does that make it so? YES!


10 posted on 09/13/2008 3:57:43 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: KansasGirl

I think she said “almost” Not exactly 20%


11 posted on 09/13/2008 3:57:56 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: lonestar67

Great catch and follow up - I expect if the oil and natural gas production is added - then coal subtracted and wind multiplied by 57 states, adding hot air from the Dems and subtracting nuclear power, divided by the number of solar panels in Biden’s hair plugs - it might very well be only 20 percent.


12 posted on 09/13/2008 3:58:04 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Satire - a heartbeat away from the truth!!!!)
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To: lonestar67

Factcheck.org is unquestionably a pro-Obama site. they even claim to have proof that Obama was born in the USA! Isn’t that silly?

Sarah Palin said that 20% of US domestic oil comes from Alaska, which is quite accurate. Palin is an expert on the subject of energy resources.


13 posted on 09/13/2008 3:58:23 PM PDT by devere
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To: lonestar67

The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state, and federal levels.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

Enough said.

14 posted on 09/13/2008 4:01:10 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: lonestar67

FactCheck is Leftist, nearly all the mass media is Leftist, Europe is socialist, Asia, Austalia, S. America and most of the rest of the world is leftist, socialist, or communist.

We need to realize that we are fighting a rear guard action here in America against a left-wing world. If we lose this year, I am giving up. I’ll go on the dole and collect as much as possible from Uncle Sam, working Americans, the UN, and anyone else I can gouge money out of.

For me, it will be like when the South lost their war of independence. There will no longer be any point in fighting for a lost cause. I will compromise my principles if that is what is necessary to survive. No more lost causes.


15 posted on 09/13/2008 4:06:16 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: All

Palin clearly stated that Alaska contributes 20% of domestic energy.


16 posted on 09/13/2008 4:07:55 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Message to radical jihadis. "...step in my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: AmericaUnited
Who died and made them boss anyway?!

The same young, dumb college kids who trust Wikipedia?

FactCheckFactCheck.org appears to be available.

17 posted on 09/13/2008 4:09:07 PM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The percentage of 'reserves' that someone or some state or some nation has is always a direct function of what the person asking the question means by the word 'reserves'.

Proven (a term that is, thankfully, on its way out)? Unproven? Analytical? Geoextrapolated? The question is meaninglesss until the word is defined.

On the same subject, different topic: AL produces 12.8% of US domestically-produced crude, which figure can easily be trebled in 5-6 years time if someone can figure out how to be shed of the enviroluddite Marxists. This figure is as of mid-2007, and is provided courtesy of James L. Williams of www.energyeconomist.com.

His twice-weekly newsletter is in ANYONE'S top ten list of excellent sources for energy data, both current and historical. His clients include both ExxonMobil and the Russian State Bank, not to mention 34 Fortune 500 companies aside from ExxonMobil.

18 posted on 09/13/2008 4:09:15 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: lonestar67

High point of Brooks Jackson’s career:
“Several months later I was chatting with Brooks Jackson, one of the White House correspondents for the Associated Press, over a cup of tea, as I remember. For reasons that I still do not fully understand, I told him about the President and the rabbit. I was the one who leaked the killer rabbit story. ..”
http://www.narsil.org/politics/carter/killer_rabbit.html


19 posted on 09/13/2008 4:10:14 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Congressman Billybob
Typo alert. For 'AL', please read 'AK'. Shoddy proofing, sorry.

Also, AK produces 2.3% of US-produced natgas, about 1$ of coal, and some amount (unknown percentage) of hydro.

All in all, it might get right to 20% or so.

20 posted on 09/13/2008 4:13:09 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: rbmillerjr

See posts 18 and 20.


21 posted on 09/13/2008 4:14:49 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: lonestar67
Something to counter factcheck.org as a non-biased site.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

22 posted on 09/13/2008 4:17:18 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: mrsmith

I went the the site and find it funny that they have two articles on GOP spin at the convention. Funny I cannot find any articles on DNC spin at their convention.

No, no bias there at all.


23 posted on 09/13/2008 4:21:58 PM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: FFranco

Yeah, that’s a good attitude.


24 posted on 09/13/2008 4:25:44 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (Elizabeth, what are you doing on the 'View' hanging out with those lipstick wearing Pigs?!?)
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To: FFranco

” If we lose this year, I am giving up. I’ll go on the dole and collect as much as possible from Uncle Sam, working Americans, the UN, and anyone else I can gouge money out of.”

Then you will just become one of the bad guys. Better to go down fighting, as a free man, with your honor and your pride than to quit and become just like the enemy.


25 posted on 09/13/2008 4:29:18 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SAJ

“On the same subject, different topic: AL produces 12.8% of US domestically-produced crude....”

Alabama has that much domestic crude? Who knew?


26 posted on 09/13/2008 4:33:19 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: FFranco
WOW dude, what kinda’ attitude is that?

If you're going to act like a squishy lib, see ya’

27 posted on 09/13/2008 4:36:39 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reid = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: FFranco

“Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature...”

“If the next centennial does not find us a great nation... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces.” —James Garfield

“If you love wealth more than liberty, and if you prefer the tranquility of servitude rather than the animated contest of freedom, then go home in peace. We seek neither your counsel nor your arms.

But bend down and lick the hands that feed you; and may your chains rest lightly upon you. And may posterity forget that you were our countryman.” - Samuel Adams


28 posted on 09/13/2008 4:40:03 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: ought-six

See post 20, posted well before yours.


29 posted on 09/13/2008 4:47:20 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: muawiyah

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-ayers-annenberg-and-acorn-a-family-affair/

some deeper info on the whole connection


30 posted on 09/13/2008 4:50:13 PM PDT by Capt Conservative
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To: SAJ

“See post 20, posted well before yours.”

I respond to a post when I read it. I don’t usually read through all the rest before I respond to the one I want to comment on. Hence, I responded before I ever got to post #20.


31 posted on 09/13/2008 4:57:57 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: top 2 toe red; ought-six; ThreePuttinDude; loboinok

Sorry guys, but I get so discouraged sometimes when I see someone who is supposed to be fair and unbiased so completely in the bag for the socialists and commies who are trying to bring our country down and make us like the rest of the Leftist world. I apologize. I shouldn’t have vented my temporary discouragement on FR.

I will keep fighting the good fight against the Commies as long as I can. Though it’s hard to keep battling with a leader who so readily compromises with evil. At least we’ve got Mrs. Palin with him. Maybe she can help keep him headed in the right direction, but it’s going to be an ongoing battle for all of us, even with McCain in the White House.


32 posted on 09/13/2008 6:02:01 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: lonestar67

I dunno. I think when it does the more subjective stuff, it can be biased, but on the straightforward “facts” it’s not really that bad. For instance:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_mccain_crash_five_planes.html

Debunking the nonsense about McCain crashing five planes. In fact, McCain was noted for “superb airmanship,” and factcheck highlights this. On the Palin business about 20% of the energy supplies, that’s more of a subjective thing. The article they have does, in fact, confirm that at least one source states that Alaska is responsible for 20% of oil and gas production in the US; factcheck argues with this because it is an average, and it does not constitute 20% of all energy supplies (since the vast majority of our energy supply is provided by terrorist-sponsoring countries).

So yes, on the things that can be spun, they tend to spin left, but they are fairly straight shooting on those things that are not spinnable—which is much more than we can say about the MSM.


33 posted on 09/13/2008 6:55:16 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: lonestar67

Yes, they are biased, and a mostly democratic group.

But it’s harder for them to attack you if you don’t actually say things that are wrong.

Alaska doesn’t supply 20% of our energy. And the bad thing is, it doesn’t make any difference.

The point would have been just as strong if she had said they provide over 15% of our domestic oil production.


34 posted on 09/13/2008 7:10:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lonestar67

FACTCHECK is run by the Annenburg Foundation. Obama was a “community organizer for the Annenburg folks.

Doesn’t take much to figure out what’s going on.


35 posted on 09/13/2008 7:20:32 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Alaska provides 18% of our natural gas and oil. She did not say our energy supply. She said “domestic energy supply”

Here again, liberals are never held to anything close to this level of verbal precision.

Stand up for Sarah.

Sarah told the truth. Factcheck lied.


36 posted on 09/13/2008 7:22:09 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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