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DailyKos ^ | 10/5/2008 | DemFromCT

Posted on 10/05/2008 7:48:19 AM PDT by sefarkas

Today's Daily Kos Research 2000 tracking poll has Obama up over McCain 52-40, no change from yesterday. All trackers are data from three days prior to posting, with the R2K numbers from today (yesterday's numbers in parentheses) and the other trackers from yesterday (previous day's data). LV=likely voter, RV=registered voter.

Obama McCain MoE +/- RV/LV Today Research 2000: 52 (52) 40 (40) 3 LV Rasmussen: 51 (51) 44 (45) 2 LV

Yesterday Diageo/Hotline: 48 (48) 41 (42) 3.2 LV (as of yesterday, LV now reported) Gallup: 50 (49) 42 (42) 2 RV

On successive days in the R2K poll, Obama was up +12 Thurs, +13 Fri and +13 Sat (MoE +/- 5.1 for individual days.) There were no new national polls yesterday other than the trackers. Tomorrow's polling will be entirely post-VP debate.

The pollster.com average is here (all polls included):

The markets move faster than the polls. Intrade is Obama 67.0 - McCain 33.2, IEM is Obama 74.5 - McCain 25.2. This morning, fivethirtyeight.com has an Obama win at 84.4.

In looking for VP debate results, two days of R2K polling show no positive effects for McCain. Yesterday's trackers had three moving a point in Obama's direction, and one (Rasmussen) moving a point in McCain's direction. Two of the polls (R2K and Diageo/Hotline) showed improvement in Biden's fav/unfav. R2K moved from +16 Biden on Sep 26 (date chosen to match Diageo/Hotline) to +24. Palin went from - 6 to - 11, same dates. From yesterday's Diageo/Hotline:

Can I Call You Joe? Biden has his best favorable rating in the survey thus far. The DE Sen.'s fav figure crossed the 50% threshold for the first time, and his fav/unfav now stands at 52%/31%. One week ago, in the survey completed 9/26, he stood at 41%/34%.

We noted last month that Tracking Polls and Interviews Suggest a Difference Between Liking Sarah Palin And Voting For Her. This is also suggested by a post-debate internet poll (no MoE because of how it was run) from Ipsos/McClatchy:

Biden won debate, but Palin more likable, poll finds

If they had to vote immediately after watching the debate between Republican Palin and the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, 52 percent of the 456 undecided voters who were surveyed would vote the Obama/Biden ticket, the poll found.

It also found that Palin's performance in the debate did nothing to clinch undecided votes for her running mate, Arizona Sen. John McCain. Before the debate, those same undecided voters were leaning 56 percent to 44 percent for McCain. The day after the debate, the numbers tilted 52 percent to 48 percent for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

"It's suggesting an overall tendency of undecideds toward Obama, so it is significant," said Clifford Young, a senior vice president at Ipsos Public Affairs. "We're catching an underlying trend that's going on."

Most everyone thinks the financial crisis and the economy is the biggest factor in current poll standings. We have no direct question in the R2K poll on that. However, here is a graph of the Research 2000 60+ age demographic. It is McCain's strongest age bracket. The graph shows McCain's erosion after 9/15 (Black Monday.) McCain once lead by 15; today that lead is 2.

Taken together, the above results suggest no discernible benefit to McCain/Palin, and modest improvement for Obama/Biden. The narrative remains that as of today, McCain is losing.


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Is this why FR is no longer reporting polling data? These numbers are very bad. The posting over there recounts numerous right/right-of-center talking-heads panning Gov Palin. Osama's experience is even less, but it seems to be unimportant. Black Monday seems to have been the end of McCain/Palin. Instead of going to Washington to move against the widely unpopular bailout and then take credit for the plan that arose in the aftermath, McCain just could not resist the training of years in the Country Club. It is a sad day. A banking holiday would cap it off.
1 posted on 10/05/2008 7:48:20 AM PDT by sefarkas
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To: sefarkas

Troll much?


2 posted on 10/05/2008 7:50:06 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("They aren't people! They're the ACLU!" - General Patton in An American Carol)
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To: sefarkas

You must not be here much.
We have too many Poll numbers posted here.


3 posted on 10/05/2008 7:51:07 AM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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To: sefarkas

you’re a troll, man.


4 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:14 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: sefarkas

Statistics show that polls are more successful at influencing weak minded voters, than they actually are at forecasting the actual vote.


5 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: sefarkas

Why in the name of all that’s holy would you link to DailyKos?


6 posted on 10/05/2008 7:53:37 AM PDT by kanawa (http://www.canadalovessarah.ca/)
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To: sefarkas

The problem isn’t with the polls.


7 posted on 10/05/2008 7:54:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: sefarkas

IBTZ!!


8 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:17 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: sefarkas

Polls are posted all the time on this board.


9 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:34 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: sefarkas

LOL.
Sorry son you link does not work.


10 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:36 AM PDT by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: sefarkas
FR is flat out stocked to the gills with poll after freaking poll.

While you spend your time at the Daily KOS...

Go back to Obama...farkas

11 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:42 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: sefarkas

Now dog gone it, I betcha you’re a troll.


12 posted on 10/05/2008 7:56:50 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: sefarkas

Im not sure which is worse, bad polls or dumb trolls.


13 posted on 10/05/2008 7:57:02 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction" Obama, from Au)
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To: xsmommy

Can’t say i like the facts or numbers he pushes, but his posting history doesn’t indicate trollship.


14 posted on 10/05/2008 7:57:09 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: sefarkas

Are you afraid Farid Zakarias?


15 posted on 10/05/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by Ulysse
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Is this why FR is no longer reporting polling data?

We have been posting tons of polling data often to the point where people are telling us to quit. One also needs to be a bit circumspect in interpreting those polls. Your post doesn't seem to reflect that level of critical thought. Perhaps you should go create a home page.

16 posted on 10/05/2008 7:57:50 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: kanawa

The silence was deafening, so I was curious. I’ve seen others discuss what they observed on the leftist web sites.


17 posted on 10/05/2008 7:58:24 AM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: sefarkas

Dude, I take Playboy’s college footlball ranking more seriously that The Daily Kos presidential polling numbers.

Their version of right/right-of-center is Noriega, because he doesn’t quite get it like Chavez does.


18 posted on 10/05/2008 7:58:35 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: xkaydet65

merely linking the Daily Kos as a source of info is suspect. no legitimate freeper would do that.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 7:58:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: sefarkas

here kitty kitty


20 posted on 10/05/2008 7:59:33 AM PDT by italianquaker (McCain when are you going to fight these rats)
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