Many of these so-called “polls” are being used this year to manipulate voter opinion. It’s always been that way but it’s twice as bad this year.
This borders on nonsensical, but I think I agree with you. If you’re trying to say that Zogby is full of crap and his polls are pulled out of his arse, I’m 100% on your side.
Zogby is same religion as Barrack Hussain Obama.
Rush used to be so high on this guy. Not anymore.
Isn’t Zogby’s brother a mouthpiece for some pro-Arab group here in America? Haven’t seen him lately.
Well, from what I gather, you’re basically saying that the polling is wrong because Zogby (and for that matter, the rest of the public pollsters) are not consistent with their sampling and they typically don’t even know what their sample group is in the first place. That is, if on one day they have 400 Dems, 400 Reps and 200 Indies, the next poll they do should have the same breakdown if the poll is to mean anything at all. If this is what you’re getting at, I agree 100%.
In theory, a proper poll should go further and stick with the very same group of people, but for several reasons, that has other problems—such as the unavoidability of the polling process itself affecting the outcome (among other things)—which is why idiotic things like Luntz’s focus group are fatally flawed.
I think you are correct (if I understand your unique way of saying things), that if polls are to have any meaning they have to track underlying trends and they can only do this by having a consistent demographic sample from one poll to the next and the baseline has to be built upon a known historical datum, such as how the pollee voted previously (which needs to be confirmed as well, but how that would be done is not clear). Otherwise, they mean nothing at all, which, frankly, I am inclined to think. That is, I think polls are, by their nature, inherently bogus. Instinct about one’s environment is a better tool than polling if you want to know what groups of people are thinking.
“Historical behavioral data ignored in polling is criminal. This from a Criminal”
Historical data??? They have current ACTIVE ONGOING data from the early voting that they are ignoring. The early voting is about evenly split after 5 days in most states.
They need to rebalance these polls based on ongoing data!
Just when we were over Zog’s 330 vote Kerry guarantee. He is only there to cripple McCain’s fundraising.
Pray for W, McCuda and Our Troops
Zogby is a fraud.
As late as last Wednesday, he was the guest speaker for a Planned Parenthood event. He’s in the tank too, and his polling data clearly reflects it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://wnyt.com/article/stories/S629204.shtml?cat=300
Were there any justice left in this world, the pollsters and the left-wing media scum would be air-dropped wherever the burnings and shootings are happening.
I will no longer read a Zogby poll and neither should you.
JoMa
That’s some kind of agrammatical word salad, but I think I agree with him.