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The Audacity of Foreign Citizenship
Political Class Dismissed ^ | Patrick Krey

Posted on 10/30/2008 11:35:57 AM PDT by Patrick_Krey

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1 posted on 10/30/2008 11:35:57 AM PDT by Patrick_Krey
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2 posted on 10/30/2008 11:38:09 AM PDT by pabianice (Inexplicable and infuriating.)
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So how did he get a driver’s license or passport?

I needed a birth certificate when I got mine.


3 posted on 10/30/2008 11:41:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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So how did he get a driver’s license or passport?

I don'tr buy that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. The evidence is just no there.

However, you do not need to be a citizen to get a driver's license- legal residents can do so by showing certain documentation. Also, a naturalized citizen can get a passport by showing their naturalization certificate.

4 posted on 10/30/2008 11:46:54 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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I’d like to see how much money he’s spent keeping his past under wraps. It must be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars at this point and that alone should cause questions.


5 posted on 10/30/2008 11:47:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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Not only was Obama born in Kenya, and therefore inelibible to become President of the US, he is also a citizen of Indonesia as his school records from there prove. If he is elected, America will have a foreign usurper serving as President. Will he govern America in the interests of Americans or Kenyans or Indonesians?


6 posted on 10/30/2008 11:52:58 AM PDT by FFranco
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I don't care what a "Naturalized Citizen" or "Legal Resident" has to do to get a passport or driver's license. I care what a natural born U.S. citizen has to do to get those documents.

I am a natural born ("native") U.S. citizen. THEREFORE, I had to show my birth certificate in order to obtain these documents.

IF Obama was born a U.S. citizen, he too would have had to show his birth certificate in order to get these documents, and said certificate would be on file with, say, Illinois DMV and/or the State Department.

7 posted on 10/30/2008 11:56:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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I see you are kind of new here.....there is a TREMENDOUS amount of evidence he was NOT born in HAWAII......look into it.


8 posted on 10/30/2008 11:57:34 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I believe the records of naturalization are public record. I seriously doubt Obama every went through a naturalization process.

If he has a passport and wasn’t naturalized, it is quite likely he is a native born citizen.


9 posted on 10/30/2008 11:57:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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My only point is that, in of itself, having a passport or driver’s license doesn’t prove that Obama is a natural-born citizen.

Does the DOV keep a copy of your birth certificate when you obtain a driver’s license? I have no idea- but I doubt they could legally share a copy, even if they did.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 11:58:52 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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In his own Autobiography he said in bad times he will support “the Muslims”; so I guess he COULD govern in the interests of BOTH Indonesia and (parts of) Kenya.

Certainly NOT the U.S.. though. We are not a Muslim nation...Yet.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 11:58:57 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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Obama’s half-sister’s name Maia appears under his name

Techdude strikes again!

-PJ

12 posted on 10/30/2008 12:02:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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How do illegal aliens get them?


13 posted on 10/30/2008 12:26:07 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I'm disinclined to tgtcquiesce to your request.)
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Forged documents.


14 posted on 10/30/2008 12:28:37 PM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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Exactamundo.


15 posted on 10/30/2008 12:36:53 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I'm disinclined to tgtcquiesce to your request.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Citizen Blade
I believe the records of naturalization are public record. I seriously doubt Obama every went through a naturalization process.

If he has a passport and wasn’t naturalized, it is quite likely he is a native born citizen.


We know he got a passport to go to Pakistan back in 1981 when US Citizens were barred from entering. So he must have used his Indonesian Birth Certificate (adopted by Lolo Soetoro who was his LEGAL father. "Dreams of my Sperm-Donor" is a more accurate name for his book.

My question is . . . does a sitting Illinois or US Senator NEED a Passport to visit foreign Countries when visiting "on behalf of the USofA?" Anyone know?

16 posted on 10/30/2008 12:51:02 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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I see you are kind of new here.....there is a TREMENDOUS amount of evidence he was NOT born in HAWAII......look into it.

I've looked into it based on past threads. The evidence you consider tremendous is, frankly, wishful thinking and speculation.

17 posted on 10/30/2008 1:07:41 PM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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We know he got a passport to go to Pakistan back in 1981 when US Citizens were barred from entering.

US citizens weren't barred from entering Pakistan in 1981- the State Department had a travel advisory for Pakistan, but there was no law, either Pakistani or US, preventing a US citizen from traveling to that country.

18 posted on 10/30/2008 1:10:52 PM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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As far as I know, Obama traveling on an Indonesian passport would have exactly zero relevance to his status as an American citizen.

If Chad or Thailand or Paraguay chooses to issue me a passport, it doesn’t invalidate my American citizenship. The only way one can lose native American citizenship is to formally denounce it as an adult. A parent cannot renounce citizenship for a child.


19 posted on 10/30/2008 1:16:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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It may be speculation, but he can put the specualation to rest by releasing his official BC. Until then you and he must refrain from casting aspersions on citizens asking for confirmation.

In Other words release the the official BC


20 posted on 10/30/2008 1:16:18 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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