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A "Big Tent" Republican, IMO, is a RINO!
11-14-08 | philman_36

Posted on 11/14/2008 5:34:13 AM PST by philman_36

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To: HappyinAZ
IMO...our “core’ principals are: no abortion/lowerspending and taxes/spoort the military/support capitalism.
I'd go along with that (I'd add a couple of more things myself, like appointing constructionist judges, for instance) but I refuse to make spoort of our military.
And as my previous reply to you shows there are plenty of Republicans who are pro-abortion.

MCain did and does all of the above
OH PLEASE! I'll give credit where credit is due, but the man was on par with ObamaRama on spending and taxes! (how was he going to get the new things he wanted without raising taxes?)

Perhaps you guys SHOULD form your own party and see how it goes?
Perhaps you should get some more coffee as you've still got some sleep in your eyes.

41 posted on 11/14/2008 7:39:53 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

I think no abortion is in our Republican platform.....so I’m not sure how we get somone in the party that is pro-abortion.....beats me!


42 posted on 11/14/2008 7:40:06 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ
I think no abortion is in our Republican platform.....so I’m not sure how we get somone in the party that is pro-abortion.....beats me!

Well it doesn't beat me. Seek the answers!
For you...

43 posted on 11/14/2008 7:50:44 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

well...you’re enthusiastic...not very logical...and don’t have a game plan...but enthusiastic.

Like I said: McCain is strong on 90% of our issues...and you treat him like cow dung. How can you have a national “party” that win elections with THAT kind of reasoning.

Seems to me...you only have a little “club”...not a national party that should/must include more thatn 1/2 of the voteres.

You can’t exclude EVERYONE that disagrees with you on ANY issue and win the election. Just saying...you need to reason...not rant.


44 posted on 11/14/2008 7:57:34 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ
I think no abortion is in our Republican platform.....
2008 Republican Platform...Maintaining The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life
Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.

No, "no abortion" isn't in the Republican Platform, but they do "assert", give "support" and "endorse" legislation to help those unborn children along.
Think "weasel words".

45 posted on 11/14/2008 8:00:54 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

gee...I perfer to see it as 1/2 full...I’m pleased and proud to be in a Party that even THINKS about the sanctity of unborn life.


46 posted on 11/14/2008 8:05:27 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: philman_36

Anyway, what does his losing the election have to do with the GOP not being conservative enough anymore? Are you implying that his loss refutes his comments?

Most definitely. But Santorum is too dumb to see the irony in his statements.

My guess is that Santorum lost his re-election because he was very much a cheerleader for George Bush. And Bush was completely incompetent in terms of delivering on Peace and Prosperity.


47 posted on 11/14/2008 8:10:03 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: HappyinAZ
McCain is strong on 90% of our issues...and you treat him like cow dung.
I point out something that he's weak as hell on, where he should be strong, and I'm treating him like cow dung? PLEASE!
Limited government is one of the biggest things conservatives have been griping about for years. Lest you forget he voted FOR the bailout plan and if that isn't expansion of government then I don't know what is.

Seems to me...you only have a little “club”...not a national party that should/must include more thatn 1/2 of the voteres.
A juvenile penis joke? And I'm supposed to take you seriously?

Just saying...you need to reason...not rant.
You need to get a clue.

48 posted on 11/14/2008 8:19:03 AM PST by philman_36
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To: HappyinAZ
I’m pleased and proud to be in a Party that even THINKS about the sanctity of unborn life.
Oh, don't be fooled. The Democratic Party thinks about the sanctity of unborn life too so you've got an invalid comparison.
However, Democrats THINK that the sanctity of unborn life, much like a certain form of abortion, SUCKS.
49 posted on 11/14/2008 8:32:27 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

I’m a big tent republican.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245

Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.


50 posted on 11/14/2008 8:45:27 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: philman_36
Good Riddance, GOP Moderates (RINOs Flee The GOP Big Tent Alert) Rush Limbaugh
They have just admitted that Republican Party "big tent" philosophy didn't work. It was their philosophy; it was their idea.
51 posted on 11/14/2008 8:46:48 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

“Big Tent” is code word for “Go Left”, it means accepting people into the party that accept perversion, all kinds of ‘compromise’, as well as pragmatic big-spending Republicans (Rockefellers).

It means that instead of relying upon conservative principles and those traditional principles of individualism and christian morality that have guided her since her inception..it means moving from these principles...and going Left to the “efficient government”, big-business RINO types!! I say GO AWAY RINOS.


52 posted on 11/14/2008 9:04:43 AM PST by JSDude1 (PAUL BROUN for House Republican Minority Leader..Mike Pence for conference chair!)
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To: Kevmo

Nice analogy, though time and agitation have slowly turned the rice into a fine powder.


53 posted on 11/14/2008 9:12:52 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
We must return to a platform of limited government, i.e., government strictly bounded by the U.S. Constitution, lower taxes and free market economics, and more personal freedom and responsibility.

We can admit all to the party who agree with our platform. This begins with the primaries – the state GOP organizations need to allow only registered Republicans to attend the caucuses, if the state or commonwealth holds caucuses, and vote in our primaries. But we must not continue to ignore our principles to pander for votes. We need no more evidence that this approach has failed – we cannot out-Democrat the Democrats, though we have attempted to do so, and we receive neither lasting credit nor thanks from those who transiently vote for our candidates. When we are on-message, presenting clear, distinct differences between our candidates and those of the other parties or groups, we win.

We have already evaluated "The Big Tent Theory" of the Republican Party. I have met no Conservative or Constitutionalist satisfied by the chaos and electoral disaster brought by testing “The Big Tent” theory on the electorate. Randall Hoven narrates the electoral results of "The Big Tent" in his American Thinker article, Time Of Death: Oct. 3, 2008. Implicit in “The Big Tent” theory is compromise – always trying to find common ground with the Left. We lose when we compromise our principles, and we always compromise our principles when we “reach across the aisle” to the Left. See James R. Stewart’s American Thinker article, A Veterans Day Lesson for the GOP.

54 posted on 11/14/2008 9:20:38 AM PST by Goat Doc (audentis Fortuna iuuat)
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To: JSDude1

Not much left to say after that is there.


55 posted on 11/14/2008 9:27:45 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Goat Doc
Thanks for the articles, Doc.

There is a war going on -- a war for the future, the heart of what and who we are as Americans. We want someone who knows the difference between good and evil. We want someone who isn't concerned about gaining the goodwill of liberal activists because we have seen that they have no good will. We want someone who is more interested in being conservative rather than seeking the approval of a craven media who seek our destruction. We want someone who is unafraid to speak up for things we value: preserving the Constitution and the family. We want a lion!

56 posted on 11/14/2008 9:37:50 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

The only criteria for inclusion have nothing to do with core beliefs and core values. These guys are in it for the money,screw principles. I want no part of it.


57 posted on 11/14/2008 5:20:29 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: philman_36

If this is a county job where ideology is irrelevant, why ask about it? I think litmus tests are stupid. Besides, I cannot judge someone by what they say they believe. Hell, lots of Republicans SAY they are conservative and act like liberals. What matters is how they govern. The fact that you like to throw stones at conservatives who are attempting to lead on a local level says alot about you.


58 posted on 11/15/2008 5:02:33 AM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Social liberals welcomed with open arms into a “big tent” Republican Party” will inevitably endeavor to undermine social conservatism within the GOP and institute their own views on social issues.

It is fallacious to contend that social liberals can be an integrated part of the GOP without them pushing the GOP hard in the direction of social liberalism.


59 posted on 11/15/2008 9:12:11 AM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: philman_36

Reagan was a “big tent” conservative, was he not?


60 posted on 11/15/2008 9:22:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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